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269 Responses to General Comments

  1. Bob Piros says:

    Does anyone have photos of the
    Cora Cemetery & know where in
    Cora it is located?

  2. Jim Coleman says:

    Is there anybody out there who lived in Rossmore camp from 1950 to 1959? My name is James (Jim) Coleman and my family lived in the gray house with a rose bush fence right across the street from Fred Rushden’s store. I just recently learned that my best buddy from Rossmore, Joe Borders, had passed away a couple of years ago. I’d sure like to hear from some of the folks who lived there when we did. We’re certainly not getting any younger are we?
    ThanksJim

    • Becky Stofan says:

      Jim, my mother Beatrice Rice lived in Rossmore earlier than 1950. She worked at Fred’s store! My grandmother Hester Rice lived in Rossmore until her death in the 1970’s. I believe my mom was a good employee and well liked at Fred’s store. I have fond memories of walking to the store from my grandmother’s home when we would visit in the late 1960’s and 70’s. I don’t recall the names Coleman or Borders. I am related to the Dameron’s and one of my aunt’s first marriage was to Fred Steele. My mom also talked fondly about the Abraham’s. Are any of those names familiar?

      • Jim Coleman says:

        Thanks Becky for sharing your memories of Rossmore! None of the people you mention ring any bells except for Fred. I did go to school with a kid named Richard Damron, He would be in his early 70’s now. I can’t remember if it was at Rossmore School in grades 1 thru 4(Teachers: Lonny Baldwin and Betty Petroff) or at Monoville grades 5 and 6. (Teachers: Mrs. Hall and Mrs. Vanoy.)

        I’m going to list some of the family names that I remember, they might be ones that you’ve heard of too. They are: Borders, Fitch, Jude, Brewer, Green, Hardin, Napper (sic), Baisden, McNeely, McCloud, Pelgram, Brooks, Lane, Seise (sic), Parker, Campbell,

        These are some family names that I can remember off the top of my head. It’s been 58 yrs. and I was 13 yrs. old when we left and moved to the state of Washington and settled in the small town of Morton. 22.4 miles North West of Mt. Saint Helens.

        I am a retired teacher that was inspired by Ms. Petroff , Mr. Baldwin and Mrs. Hall who were there for us during the labor crisis in the mines due to automation. There were thousands of undereducated and uneducated folks whose world was turned upside down. I was able to thank my Dad before he passed away for getting us to another place with some measure of opportunity. I understand that things got really tough in the early 60’s and many did not fair as well as our family did.

        Those things aside, I have many, many, many, fond memories of my pre-teen years in Rossmore. My wife and I plan to visit the area this spring.

        Thanks a million for your comments and hopefully you will recognize some of the family names I’ve mentioned.

        Thanks again Jim

        • Becky Stofan says:

          My mom was 20 years older and in the 50s would have moved to Stollings I believe after getting maried. They owned a restaurant or drive-in in Switzer I think for a short while; I wish I would have asked more questions when they were alive.
          My grandmother lived in a 4 room coal camp home; it was to the left when you go across the bridge off of Rt 44 to go into Rossmore. It is all different in that section now; mobile homes.
          My parents Charlie & Beatrice Fowler came to Ohio in the mid 50s. I am related to Willard & Dorothy Dameron, Mildred & Lige McKinney, Willard & Lucille Green. I do remember mom talking about Betty Petroff. Look at the photos on this site under Monaville, there are photos of young Bates and Betty Petroff.
          Other names right now that come to mind: Letha Mae Maynard was the postmaster; Mary Hardin; Lucille Gollihue, Frank Chambers.
          On my dad’s side I have a step marriage relationship with Lyda Mae Mcneely who was the daughter of Andy Mcneely in Stollings.

          • Donna Wooten says:

            Hi…this is Donna Borders Wooten….we lived in Rossmore until 1960…..Letha Maynard bought the house we lived in. Bates Petroff was my one of my brother, Dallas’ best friends.

          • Becky Stofan says:

            Donna, thanks for the reply to me about Letha and I’m glad you had info for Jim. I hope he sees your post. Did any of the other names I listed sound familiar? My mom and her sisters are the Rice girls.

        • mister549 says:

          Jim, I am a first cousin to Joe Borders. His sister, Donna Sue Borders Wooten is on Facebook; along with other sisters, Darlene and Connie. My name is Joan Steele-Taber and I am very close to these cousins. Please feel free to contact me at js3taber@yahoo.com.

    • Donna Wooten says:

      Hi Jim….I’m Joe’s older sister, Donna Sue. Our cousin Joan Steele Taber saw your post and told me about it. I then told sister Phoebe, who remembers you well. Said she thought you were in the band at LJH with her and Joe. She also remembered you & Joe nicknamed the three of you as Popeye (Joe), Bluto (James) and Olive Oyl. It was with great sadness when we lost Joe a couple of years ago. Joe along with Phoebe, Darlene and I all live in Lexington, KY . If you want to catch up with Phoebe, her facebook page is under Phoebe Borders Wellman. Nice to hear from you.

  3. I’m looking for information about Dr. Thomas McClellan, b. 1876, d. 1953 in Logan, West Virginia. My email address is mamaw.debdeb@gmail.com.

  4. Mike. says:

    Can some one show me on the Logan map where dipsy branch is.

  5. Does anyone remember Frank Hutchison from Logan West Virginia who was a musician and live in a coal camp near Logan and wrote a lot of blues and slide bar getuar songs I am his nephew and would like to know if any of you remember him. and what you can tell me about his mother which is my grandmother my name is Deskins he was also a postmaster and grocery store owner and the 20th near Logan and my family started the Deskins addition near Logan I currently live in Ohio

  6. Cynthia Pennington says:

    Enjoyed visiting this site and reading the various stories and comments, it’s a wealth of info and history for visitors and locals alike. Wanted to ask and make sure I haven’t missed anything, because I dident find anything on the Buffalo Creek Flood in Logan County, February 26, 1972. I may have missed it, could someone let me know for sure? If there is no info here for it, this website would be a prime place to read about it. I noticed there were other disasters mentioned. And to those who lived through it, or read about it, its hard to believe there are those in this generation that know nothing about it. It should be in our history books. Hope someone will let know, thank you so much.

  7. Ray Hartzell says:

    Hoping someone on this site could help me out. I recently came across a couple mentions of a serpent shaped Indian mound in Logan county. However, I can’t find any indepth information. Does anyone know anything about it, or maybe know someone who does? Thanks

    • Bob Piros says:

      Ray,maybe do an online search.
      Call the Logan Banner.
      There is a mound in Logan CO. Ohio.
      Also contact the Chief Logan Museum,
      304-792-7125.
      There is also WV.Arch.org site.

  8. Barbara Johnson - shewak says:

    It saddens me deeply to put this on the wall. My mom Violet (Vi) Copley Johnson born in slagle went home to Heaven on March 7. She was with the class of 55 in Logan. She Will be missed deeply by her husband Frank daughters Barbara and Tammi and her grand and great grandchildren and so many other lives that my Mom touched. Her services will be tomorrow at crouse Kauber Fraley funeral home in johnstown Ohio from 1-3 service following calling hours. Barbara Johnson-shewak

  9. Rebecca Fischer says:

    Anyone have information about dulcimer makers in and around Logan? Zeke Ellis (“Uncle Zeke”)?

    • Bob Piros says:

      Rebecca, familysearch.org
      shows a James Ezekial Elllis,
      born in 1877 & died in 1960.
      He’s buried in Forest Lawn
      Cemetery.Photo of him on
      Memorial page at findagrave.org.

  10. John Graham says:

    I am in search of pictures of slagel in the 40s and 50s to have a painting made for my mother who was raised there. Does anyone have anything they would be willing to share? My mother is Judith Thompson her parents were Hersel and Edith Thompson.

  11. Marc Junod says:

    My reason for wanting the book is that I lived in Dehue with my grandparents until 1957 or 1958. Their names were Paul and Vanessa Rohland. Thanks again.

  12. Marc Junod says:

    Are the Dehue history books still available for purchase and how much are they? Thanks!!

  13. John Mark Thompson says:

    Thompson Family of Logan Research
    John Mark Thompson – johnmarkthompson73@gmail.com

    My name is John Mark Thompson and I was born in Huntington. My father is Rex Kenton Thompson born Verdunville, 1949, grandfather James Harold Thompson, Sr, born in Holden 1922, great-grandfather Wilburn Thompson, born in Verdunville 1896, great-great grandfather Leander Scott Thompson born in Logan 1873 (my son Robert Brian Thompson shares his birthday of June 6), and I believe his father to be John Evert Thompson born in Logan in 1837. I’m just getting started on my research but I am really enjoying myself. Any confirmation or correction you can provide to my efforts thus far would be greatly appreciated!

  14. chris haddox says:

    anyone know where the wv school furniture company was located in logan….early 1900s..1908-10?


    It was located about where the old Guyan Machine Shops were located. The company moved to Huntington in 1912. — Admin

  15. Erin McQueen Deicke says:

    I am looking for Ailene Wells or any of her family from Logan County WV, My Mom was adopted from Logan in 1948 and We are looking for her birth mother or anyone related to her birth mother with the Wells name, contact me via FB message if anyone has any information! Thank you

  16. L.R. Arnold says:

    I am searching for the grave sites of my Great Grand Parents. Their death certificates state they are buried in Pine Creek Cemetary in Logan Co. WV. They died 1943 and in 1954. Can you please help me locate this cemetary?

  17. Meredith says:

    I’m wanting to know where the Sunbeam Cemetery and Mercy Hospital in Logan is located.

    • ralph mcneely says:

      mercy hospital was on dingess st. it was the first hospital in logan.. it was later named guyan valley… the orig building was the home of c. v. white..

  18. Shelby Burgess says:

    Getting back to the Harriss Funeral Home History………… In the 1930s, there were only two funeral homes to choose from in Logan County WV : they were Harriss, and J T Wyatt Funeral Home at Aracoma. in Boone County, Hunter Mortuary was the only morticians to serve the county back then

  19. Bob Piros says:

    For Larry Hurley,looking for newspaper articles.
    Try Susan Scouras,# 304-558-0230.
    She is a researcher at the Archives & History
    News,The Culture Center in Charleston,WV.
    Also,Harless Library @ http://www.southernwv.edu.

  20. Carla Haslam Herkner says:

    I would like to offer our deepest condolences to the family of Delores Riggs Davis. We hold you all tenderly in our thoughts and prayers. ~ Carla and David Herkner

  21. Tricia White says:

    I was wondering if anyone knew anything about a Melvin Tennis White and/or Amanda White who lived in the Triadelphia District in Logan in the 20s and 30s. Amanda was married to Melvin Blackburn White, son of Andrew Wilson White , and Melvin Tennis was their oldest child, probably born around 1916. The story we have is that Amanda or “Mandy” died from childbirth in 1920 and we believe her grave to be in Earling Cemetery. Melvin T reportedly died from a gunshot wound sometime after 1930, while still in his teens. If anyone has any info , it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you – Tricia White

    • Bob Piros says:

      Tricia,findagrave shows a
      Amanda O’Donald White buried
      in Earling Cemetery.Death
      March 12,1920.
      familyseach.org shows a
      Amanda White in 1920
      census born in 1885.
      Please check the sites.

      • Tricia says:

        I have found Amanda in Earling Cemetery and in the 1920 Census. We were hoping to find a birth/death record for her, but no luck. Melvin T appears as Tennis in the 1930 census and just disappears after that. We are planning to visit family there in the spring, so maybe the courthouse will have some record that is not online? Anyway, thank you for your reply!

      • Brenda Andersen says:

        Also check wvculture.org. I’ve had great success at finding family documents there. Birth, death, marriage. Try different spelling variations.

      • Brenda Andersen says:

        Bob, I also saw her listed there along with the other family members she mentioned.

    • Brenda Andersen says:

      Here’s what I found on WVCulture.org:

      http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=2891679&Type=Death Death Record for Melvin Blackburn White

      Melvin Blackburn White’s actual death cert http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=2153223&Type=Death

      Do you know Amanda’s maiden name? Did she outlive Melvin? Could she have remarried? I can’t find anything for her or her son

      • Tricia says:

        Thank you Brenda, but I already have those documents. I believe her maiden name is O’Donald, as that ‘s what listed in Earling Cemetery records. She and Melvin T appear in a couple censuses and then nothing…no birth or death records. That ‘ s why I thought I would give it a shot posting here. Thanks so much for your efforts, I sincerely appreciate it!

  22. karen says:

    does anyone know the names of these young coal miners in the picture on this site?

  23. Shelby Burgess says:

    I would like to know the names of the two mines in Chapmanville that operated near Rt. 10 in the 1930s. The lower one was called Thompkins. The other was unknown to me. One had a trash coal fire that burned for many years. I do not believe either mine was ever sealed properly. We got our household coal from the dumps in the great depression. there was no money for coal deliveries back then, so we foraged for our own fuel. In the summer months we got our coal from the Guyandotte river with flatbottom boats.

  24. Cathie Guinto says:

    Would anyone know where the Bad Man of Crawley Creek, Howard Conley, is buried? He happens to be my husband’s great-grandfather. A person can google, Bad Man of Crawley Creek and read the story but there is no mention of his burial. Thank-you in advance. Cathie Guinto

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Howard is probably buried in the Conley Cemetery at Chapmanville. It is overlooking the Guyandotte river near the Crawley Creek road. Hundreds of people were buried there. I am thinking the Conley heirs, (Thomas & Lula ) donated the land for the cemetery.

  25. Joyce (Picklesimer) Brown says:

    To Shelby Burgess, you said you went to school with some from Harts Creek, Goldie Adams was my mother, Monroe Adams was my uncle. I would love to hear from some one who went to school with them.

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Hi, Joyce;
      Yes, I did attend school with Goldie Adams.This was in the 1940s. As you can guess- I am very old.i have the Tigers 1941

      • Shelby Burgess says:

        Yearbook. I believe Goldie is in the pic ture. Give me your US mail address, and I will send the pic to you.
        Shelby B.

      • Joyce (Picklesimer) Brown says:

        I am so glad you answered, sorry it took so long to get back with you. I would love to have any picture of my mom. Nice to know some one who went to school with her. Thank you very much
        my home address
        9274 Mill Dam Rd. Se.
        Hebron, Ohio 43025
        camillia joyce

      • Mark Adkins says:

        My mother is Carrie Vance and is living in Worthington ,Ky.She has a sister named Goldie Vance who lives in Wilmington,Delaware.Also a sister whom is desist named Bonnie Vance .Would it be possible If u could look thru your yearbook and see if u can find any one of the three?

  26. Katy Ryan says:

    I am doing research on a woman named Maria E. Parker. She was from Charleston, born in 1899, but taught school in Omar. In 1926, she was convicted of murdering Rev. Edward Howard and sent to the WV State Penitentiary. If anyone happens to know anything about this case or Maria Parker, I would love to learn more: kohearnr@mail.wvu.edu. (Thanks for posting the beautiful video about women in NC.)

  27. Steve Early says:

    I have been trying to locate the cemetery that my Great grandfather Jesse Meek is buried. Jesse was a construction foreman for Island Creek Coal Company. He died of a gunshot wound in Logan County at Monitor Junction on December 14, 1919. According to the newspaper account, he was buried on Mud Fork of Island Creek. Does anyone know where he would have been buried? The records I found of the two cemeteries listed as being on Mud Fork do not indicate any burials for a Meek or Meeks. His second wife’s name was Belladora Ann “Belva” Baldwin Meek. She was Jesse’s wife when he died and I have not found any record of her burial location as well.

    • Bob Piros says:

      Steve, familysearch.org shows him as
      Jesse M.Meeks,born in 1871 in KY.,
      in the 1910 Logan Co.Census.
      Also shows #1 wife as Belle Deskin
      in 1889 & # 2 wife as BVA Baldwin
      in 1895.Shows only Mud Fork as
      burial.

    • Tammy R.crum says:

      I am a Baldwin ancestor and Historian and I live at Hewett ……..There is a Baldwin/Meeks Cemetary located at Lake WV and I do believe that is where Jesse and his 2nd wife are actually buried. I have information on Jesse if you would like to contact me.

  28. Shelby Burgess says:

    One remeberance I have as a kid was when our teacher drove us to the big White oak tree. The bottom of the tree was as large as my bedroom at home. Was this tree in Logan, or Mingo counties ? At the time, the big tree was said to be the largest White Oak in the world. Does anyone have a pic of the big tree ?

  29. Shelby Burgess says:

    Which governor started the farm to markets roadbuilding, back in the 1830s ? I am thinking it was Gov Kump.
    Before any new roads were built from logan to Huntington & Charleston, the farmers had a dreadful time getting their farm products to any larger citys. I remember my relatives, the Bias and Vickers familys had to take their tobacco crop to Huntington in farm wagons. They had to pick a time when the stream waters were low; and take axes & saws along to clear the roadways. This was the only cash crop for many farmers.No trucks had yet been invented.

  30. Shelby Burgess says:

    Does anyone know how Georges Creek,in the headwaters of Dingess Run, Logan co. WV, got its name ? The Post office there is Hetzel, WV Probably named for some early settler there by the name of George ; but George who ? Thanks.

  31. Orville Carter says:

    sorry to see that Johnny Patrick passed away this past week , did not know he was in that bad health , I went to school with Johnny at Mill Creek and at Logan central Jr.
    high , he lived right below the grade school on Mill Creek .
    GOOD BY JOHNNY SEE YOU AGAIN SOMETIME ORVILLE

  32. Orville Carter says:

    I grew up on Mill Creek, Went to grade school at mill creek grade school, JR. high Logan Central, now live in Michigan for the past 24 years. the last time I was in that area was labor day weekend 2010, a lot has changed don’t see anyone from Mill Creek on here. my email address is jack4310005@yahoo.com

  33. kdspencer says:

    I noticed there was no pictures of the buffalo creek disaster, very important part of logan.

  34. Jackie Fillinger says:

    I have a question that I hope someone can answer for me..My ex who no longer lives in Logan anymore remembers two older people (couple) in glass sitting in rocking chairs above the ground somewhere in or around Logan..he said towards Omar..Its not the Hatfields…But says he can’t remember exactly where or who it is..Can anyone else answer this for him..Thank you

    • Pat says:

      I can barely remember that, but I think it was a radio station promotion for something. Seems like they called the man ” Pinky” or 1 them. I would love to find out something more also.

  35. Krystal Bartram says:

    I would like to take a moment to thank Dodie Browning for all her help in locating family members..Also,to all those who replied to my postings..This site,and Ancestry.com helped other members of my father’s side of the family connect..After 55 yrs..My father spoke with his brother,he never knew he had,finally saw photos of his father (for the first time ever) also his siblings,Aunts,Uncles etc..Sadly though,some of the siblings who were also searching,passed away at an early age..I wish I would have known about this site before..maybe his brother that just passed in Dec.2012..could have spoke with him or met in person…It’s never too late to search for lost loved ones..because you never know who’s searching for you too..Once again,thank you all for the help..God Bless you Dodie Browning for all your hard work and the kindness you show towards others and your love for West Virginia…My mother also thanks everyone for helping us in this research.

  36. Frank Thompson says:

    I just learned the sad news that Terry L. Mullins passed away March 12, 2012. Terry was born June 2, 1948 at Holden. I was trying to find him on Facebook and came across his obituary. I am sure many of you have visited his web page at:
    http://www.members.tripod.com/~TerryLeeMullins/TerryLMullins.html

  37. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    I think my heart is going to burst! It has been a long time since anything touched me so deeply as the latest video (Logan County WV USA) on the home page. I had never heard that song before and I want a copy!!! I had tears in my eyes listening to the song and watching the streets go by where I spent my childhood days. It was getting towards the end, approaching the tunnel and I was wishing there had been a picture of City View, because that is where I spent most of my life in Logan. I was suddenly amazed when right at the end, there was City View in the distance and it shows my house perched high on that hill. I could not hold back the sobs-tears of JOY! Thank you Frank, for posting that wonderful video and please tell us who put it together.

  38. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    I was surfing the web today and happened upon some of my old web pages that the servers have chosen to restore, with music and all! This one is especially meaningful to me and I hope it will be to each of you. Crack up you sound and read the wonderful story about “The Builder”. You will more than likely enjoy a picture taken by my husband. It is an old Logan County Landmark that is no longer there and it was not an easy shot to get.

    Thank you Ron Browning for your love of Logan County, but most of all, thank you for loving me. You (and my mother) were the Wind Beneath My Wings.
    http://famsteel.tripod.com/henbridge.html

    • Kyle Workman says:

      You are right. This is a wonderful story. The music ain’t half bad either. Thanks for the reminder.

      • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

        Glad you enjoyed it, Kyle. God always knows best and sends us an angel when needed. He sent me several today… Have you seen the new picture (The old Chapmanville High School) on the Homepage? Frank just put it up. I found out for certain that Chapmanville High School was built in 1929.

        • Shelby Burgess says:

          1929 may be the year the school waa finally completed, but it took two years to erect the structure. It began in 1927. I remember the men hauling cement in wheelbarrows to the site ; slow laborious work back then; I dont remember the first Principal’s name, but the athletic director was a man named Peterson.

          • Darwin Justice says:

            My uncle Henry Justice was principal for many years at Chapmanville High School. He retired in 1973. Uncle Henry shares many great memories from his days at Chapmanville High in a short biography titled THE CROOKED FINGER THAT GOT THINGS STRAIGHT (Experience of a High School Principal).
            He was a great guy.

        • Kyle Workman says:

          I love that needle point work. Congrats on solving a mystery. Of course then again that’s second nature to you. Re-Search, Re-Search, R-Search.

  39. Shelby Burgess says:

    1927 was the year Chapmanville High School was built. This new school made some changes to folks who lived on Harts Creek. Buses did not operate at that time, so students had to board away from home to attend the new High School. Some families just moved away from Harts, in closer to Chapmanville. The school board finally got bus service going in the late 1930s.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Shelby, What is the source of your information regarding when Chapmanville High School was built? Swain doen’t mention it in his chapter on schools (copyrighted 1927). The older people I know from Harts Creek (some still living, including my sister), went to Jr. High at Logan and then we moved from Harts Creek. I do not know of any students from Harts Creek (Logan County) who attended High School in those days. It was much later that Harts Creek finally got decent roads and school buses started running to Harts Creek from Chapmanville. All of this is in my Book “Whirlwind In Appalachia” Chapter 5 (well researched and documented), with interviews of people who actually lived there. Here is one excerpt: (pg 32)” In an interview with Faye (Smith) Nicolas in 2001, Faye related that when she was promoted to seventh grade in 1952, they did finally have a school bus running from Harts Creek to Chapmanville, but still no decent roads. She said it sometimes took two hours or longer to get to Chapmanville, over the muddy, icy dirt roads. She recalled once when they were on the way home from school in the winter, the bus broke down just outside of Chapmanville and the children had to walk home. She said they had to walk over Smokehouse Mountain in the snow, ice and mud and they were nearly frozen when they got home about 9:30 at night. “

      • Shelby Burgess says:

        Dodie ;
        I watched the building being erected as a small kid back then. So, I know when Chapmanville High was built.
        Some of the Harts Creek boarders back then were : Monroe Adams, Goldie Adams, Custer McCann. They stayed at the home of Cora Mckinney, near the school.
        For your information, Harvey Dingess also boarded and completed his education at the same High School. He went on to college,earned some degrees; and later became Logan County Superintendent of Education.

        • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

          Shelby, I do not have a date for when Chapmanville High School was built. All I know is what Swain wrote in his 1927 History Of Logan County AND what I found in Public records at the WV Department Of Archives and History. Swain stated that there were 4 senior high schools in Logan County in 1927: “Logan, Man, Sharples and Aracoma, the latter being a colored school”. (Source: History of Logan County WV by G.T. Swain, Chapter XXXVI, Logan Churches And Schools, page 197).

          Based on a records search in the database of WV Department Of Archives and History, Monroe Adams was born Sep 15, 1921. It is doubtful he was boarding with anyone and attending High school when he
          was six or 7 years old (1927). Also, He was not from Harts In Logan County. He was from Little Harts Creek in Lincoln County and he died there at age 35 in 1957. They took him to Logan General Hospital where he was pronounced DOA (dead on arrival). His death record is shown in both counties. Goldie Adams was born about 1923. She was sister to Monore Adams. As stated, they were from Little Harts Creek in LINCOLN COUNTY.
          Custer McCann’s family also lived in Lincoln County, not Logan County. Cora Mckinney, According to her death certificate, lived at Garretts Fork.

          Joy Vance (a former Mayor and lifelong resident of Chapmanville) was the first school bus driver from Chapmanville to Main Harts Creek in Logan County and she told me in an interview some years ago that in was in the early 1950s that buses first went to Harts Creek (LOGAN COUNTY) to take children to school at Chapmanville.

          Harvey Dingess was my cousin….

          Everyone is welcome to double check my research and post your findings. As the famous poet, Alexander Pope once said, “to err is human, to forgive divine”.

          • Shelby Burgess says:

            Dodie;
            You seem to have some events you mentioned, in differnt time decades. Those students I named went to CHS in the late 1930s. Two others I didnt name were Diamond Collins, Claude Workman, who were my classmates. They had Shively p.o. as their home mailing addresses, which is on Harts Creek. Also, I am informed by Goldie Adams’ sister that their father was a store merchant on Big Harts, not Little Harts..
            Cora McKinney lived at Chapmanville nearly all her life. She died on Garretts Fork, where she was cared for by relatives.

          • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

            Oops, I made one small typoo can change an entire meaning. I meant to say that Joy Vance was one of the first school bus drivers to Big Harts Creek. (I don’t know who was the first).

          • Shelby Burgess says:

            Not really sure of who was the first bus driver to Harts Creek. I do know a man named Lace Dingess drove the Crawley Creek bus line to pick up students to Chapmanville H. S. This was as early as 1939. I believe the bus went as far as Smokehouse Mountain road. The roads were terrible back then. Also, busses ran to the Northfork & Garrets Fork roads back then. A bus garage was finally built about 1940 to service the busses. I do not know the date when Harts Creek bus service started.

          • Kyle Workman says:

            To never have made a mistake is to never have accomplished anything. Durn I’ve made every mistake in the book and still ain’t through. Thank You Dodie for your tireless work and historical research on Harts Creek and for that matter Logan and its environs. Also thank you for the Workman Family History. I’m so proud to say, “I know the Lady that did this history”.

          • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

            Thank you so much, Kyle. I needed that! Most of my mistakes online are typos. (I’m the world’s worst typist) I have been on the phone most of the day, trying to find someone who actually knows when Chapmanville High School was built. It is not in the 1970s year books. You know what? Something positive always comes out of something negative. I have talked to people today that I had not heard from in years. Surely someone can document the date that the old Chapmanville school was built. I’m considering posting Chapter 5 of “Whirlwind” that tells about the schools on [BIG] Harts Creek. I can’t remember if I posted it previously? Do you have Chapter 5?

          • Kyle Workman says:

            I do not have Chapter 5. But I sure would like to. Also you are so surely welcome. Having someone you trust put in print your family history is truly wonderful. Again my thanks.

          • Mary McCann says:

            Custer McCann was raised on Piney Fork of West Fork of Big Harts Creek, on the Logan County side. He boarded in Chapmanville while he finished High School there. I know he boarded with Walt and Ivy Chapman.

          • Darwin Justice says:

            Dodie,

            I don’t how correct the following information is but on the back cover of Uncle Henry’s book; THE CROOKED FINGER THAT GOT THINGS STRAIGHT the is a needle point picture of the old school. It is dated 1929-1993. The initials of the person that done the work is BJB. Hope this helps with determining the year the school was built.

        • Joyce (Picklesimer) Brown says:

          I hope you are still on here. Goldie Adams was my mother,Monroe was my uncle. my Mom died when I was six, it would be so nice to talk to some one who went to school with her.

  40. Shelby Burgess says:

    Dodie ;
    When James Perry did the 1850 Logan County Census, he was on Harts creek also.
    His record shows Josephus Workman lived in house # 182. Some of Joesphus’ neighbors on Harts creek were : 181 (James Tombolin), 183 ( Joseph Adams),
    Some of the other Workmans who lived nearby were 187 (Abijah Workman), 186 (Obed Workman), 189 John Workman. No record of Mary & Josephus ever living in Lincoln county, as you posted.
    It seems to me like Workman fork, and White Oak fork were one & the same back then.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Shelby,
      If we were on Harts Creek, I could take you to where each of those folks lived. Remember in 1850, just because a Census taker numbered houses to look like they were close together, they could be miles apart. White Oak does run into Smokehouse, but it has ALWAYS been White Oak. Some of the old deeds even say White Oak Fork Of Smokehouse. Everyone who lived on White Oak was my family and I have all of the land grants and deeds for same. That was Bryant (and Hensley) Country

      (Abijah “Bige” Workman lived at Bulwark, Obediah lived at Henderson and Josephus (aka Joseph) age, 40 lived at Smokehouse where he had lived for a couple of years. In order to obtain a land grant, settlers had to stake a cliam and live on the the land, making improvements for at least 2 years before a grant was finalized. There is a Joseph on the 1860 Wayne County Census, but I do not know if same one. (I have the census records but can’t get to them now) If you check the 1870 Census, Harts Creek District, You will find him as Joseph (and Mary) both age 60. This is why I KNOW he lived in Lincoln County and I assume it was where Workman Fork in Lincoln County got its name.
      Here is my proof of everything I just said:

      Workman, Joseph. grantee.
      Land grant 10 July 1834.
      Location: Cabell County.
      Description: 40 acres on the Trace Fork of the right fork of 12 Pole Creek.
      Source: Land Office Grants No. 83, 1833-1837, p. 257 (Reel 149).
      *******************************************************
      Workman, Joseph. grantee.
      Land grant 1 July 1850.
      Location: Wayne County.
      Description: 140 acres on the branch he lives on of the right hand fork of Twelve Pole.
      Source: Land Office Grants No. 103, 1850, p. 317 (Reel 169).
      (There were 2 men named Abijah Workman in the area The one on “Bull Work” (sic)Bulwark is my family- s/o Moses Workman Sr and bro. to my gr grandfather Mose Workman Jr.).
      *****************************************************
      Workman, Abijah. grantee.
      Land grant 1 September 1855.
      Location: Logan County.
      Description: 78 acres on Hart’s Creek and the Bull Work Fork of same.
      Source: Land Office Grants No. 111, 1855, p. 647 (Reel 177).
      ******************************************************
      Workman, Obadiah. grantee.
      Land grant 1 September 1854.
      Location: Logan County.
      Description: 44 acres on Hart’s Creek of Henderson’s Fork of same.
      Source: Land Office Grants No. 110, 1854-1855, p. 466 (Reel 176).
      Workman, Abijah. grantee.
      Land grant 1 December 1851.
      Location: Logan County.
      Description: 100 acres on the Hager Branch of Cane Patch Fork of Twelve Pole.
      Source: Land Office Grants No. 106, 1851-1852, p. 591 (Reel 172).
      ****************************************************************
      1870 LINCOLN COUNTY Census Harts Creek District (This is Little Harts Creek)
      Workman Joseph 60
      Workman Mary 60
      Workman Julia Ann 36
      Workman Eliza 24
      Workman Dicy 21
      Workman Joseph E. 20
      Workman Joseph Jr. 10
      Workman William 8
      Workman Tucker 3
      Workman Robert E. Lee 2
      Workman Rosie 5 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      This was physically very hard for me and I wouldn’t do it for anyone else. All of these records are online now.

      • Shelby Burgess says:

        Hi Dodie; Thanks a bunch for all the hard work! I discovered the map maker omitted Workman Fork of Little Harts Creek, Lincoln Co. WV. so his works are unsatisfactory. However, we now know that Josephus Workman was a dweller on both creeks (Big Harts & Little Harts). As for the houses being close in the Logan Census, that was not possible; because farms needed large areas of land for food & grazing purposes.

      • Brenda Andersen says:

        Do you know how I can find land grants or transfers for Whitman (Whitman Creek?) in Logan County? My stepdad’s family lived on Whitman for many years and owned a cemetery on the side of the mountain. That’s the cemetery where Bige Workman’s stone was recently found. His stone reads B.J. Workman. A picture of his tombstone and death cert have been uploaded to FindAGrave.com’s Baisden Cemetery Whitman.

        Back to my question. I really need to try to find a document that states when our family came to possess this land. I know for sure Thomas M Baisden lived in the old homestead by 1910 and his father Thomas T Baisden lived in Big Creek in late 1800s. My records show him born in Big Creek, but a census shows him born in VA (I confused) and Thomas M as having lived in Rich Creek in 1871 and was a widow at 38 yrs old and living on Whitman 1910. He ran a boarding house.

    • Brenda Andersen says:

      Abijah Workman? My niece just found a tombstone in our family cemetery onWhitman Creek (Baisden Cemetery). “Bige” born 1872 probably Abijah, Jr.

  41. Barb Tomblin Randolph says:

    Hi

    Would anyone know where the Pine Grove Cemetery in Mingo County is or is there such a cemetery located in Mingo County?

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Hi Barb;
      I believe Pine Grove cemetery is located in Cabwaylingho St. Park. Go to Dunlow,WV,Route 52 ; then enter the park road, and travel a distance of about two miles on the left side of the highway.. I have never in been the cemetery, but have passed it a number of times.

      • Barb Tomblin Randolph says:

        Thanx Shelby

        I often gather death records from West Virginia Vital Records and on Hugh Tomblin’s death record it states that he was laid to rest at the Pine Grove Cemetery in Mingo Co., His mother was said to be laid to rest at White Oak Cemetery in Mingo Co.

        On the Find A Grave cemetery listings Pine Grove is not an option but White Oak is. I was told that they were the one and the same cemetery? Would you know if this is so or not?

        • Brenda Andersen says:

          Hello Barb! Remember me? We met a few months before Buster passed away. I’m the daughter of Buster William Browning. Hugh was his stepfather. Millie is my grandmother. I tried to find that cemetery also.Is White Oak and Pine Grove the same place?

        • Brenda Andersen says:

          Is either of these cemeteries connected to the Spry Cemetery where Bass Spry was buried? Thanks
          Brenda

  42. Shelby Burgess says:

    I have a map of the 55 Counties of WV. It was published about 1990. There is no White Oak Fork of Harts Creek on the map. Where White Oak Fork is supposed to be, the map has Workman Fork. I have an ancestoral aunt I have been told, is buried on Workman Fork. Her name was Mary Burgess (1807). Her husband was Josephus Workman. I know the state renamed a lot of the places back several years ago. Too many places had the same name which was confusing.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Shelby, there is no Workman Fork at Harts Creek in Logan County unless the name has been changed. I believe Workman Fork is at Little Harts Creek in Lincoln County. Josephus Workman didn’t live at Harts Creek in Logan County, so more than likely Workman Fork in Lincoln Co was named for his family. It is very possible that the map is incorrect. I have Bryant Deeds from mid 1800s and they state White Oak Fork Of Harts Creek, Logan County. You were right about it connecting to Smokehouse Fork.

  43. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    I just viewed a wonderful video about 3 beautiful mountain women and it made me so homesick for the mountains that I actually cried aloud. These ladies are not from Logan County, but their heritage is very similar to ours and they are from my generation. They come from 3 different races but they are one in spirit.

  44. Shelby Burgess says:

    Someone wanted to know where White Oak Fk. is located on Harts Creek. It is the next fork down from Smokehouse Fk. (Shively). You can also travel the Crawley creek road to Harts Creek mountain, and then cross over the ridge to Smokehouse Fk. If you are in the Chapmanville area. The distance is about 4 miles.

  45. Danny Lee Elkins says:

    Thanks for your work. Missed the 22 reunion. Glad to visit this site (MEMORIES) are good. Lonnie & Nora parents, Janice sister photo 1942 1st grade pic, Thomas, Larry brothers #22 was a wonderful place to grow up at.

  46. PENNY ADKINS NAGY says:

    I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY PICTURES OF JULIA BRYANT? MY MAM MAW WAS (ROXIE LEANA (LENA) DALTON ADKINS). SHE WAS MARRIED TO WILLIS ADKINS FROM BIG BRANCH IN HARTS. VIOLA TOMBLIN DALTON WAS HER MOTHER AND HER FATHER WAS JAMES (JIM) DALTON. VIOLA TOMBLIN’S MOTHER WAS JULIA BRYANT…..WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU DO HAVE ANY PICTURES TO SHARE WITH OUR DALTON SIDE OF THE FAMILY….. THANK YOU….

  47. Frank Thompson says:

    My favorite scene of the “Hatfields and McCoys” mini-series is where they showed a copy of the Logan Banner.

    • Brandon Kirk says:

      As a former employee at the Banner, I really enjoyed that part, too. However, I couldn’t help but note that the newspaper began publication in 1889 and was in those days titled the Logan County Banner. You can find the Logan Banner on microfilm all the way back to 1889 at the Cultural Center in Charleston, WV. It’s good reading!

  48. Katrina Muncy Blankenship says:

    My mother, Kathryn Curry Muncy was born and raised in Verdunville. I would love to gather any information that is available about the Curry family. My grandpa was Rev. Willie Curry, his wife, Eliza Bryant Curry and their children: Orpha (dec), Relma (dec). Lell, Lahoma, Arvis, Esmond, Irmith, Paul, Kathryn, and Estelle. All but my mom and Aunt Estelle have passed away. Thank you in advance! Katrina Blankenship

  49. Frank Thompson says:

    The History Channel will air the “Hatfields and McCoys” six-hour miniseries starting with Part 1 on May 28th. I am looking forward to watching it, but I am very pissed that it wasn’t filmed in WV. It was filmed in Romania.

    • Carla Haslam Herkner says:

      I agree, Frank. I do want to watch the series, but I am so sad to learn about this “snub.” WV should have been the location for the whole series.

  50. Frank Christlieb says:

    Hello:
    I am doing Logan-related research for a book I’m hoping to write on my birth parents, who were not from Logan, but lived in Logan/West Logan from about 1948 to 1951. I am trying to find old-timers still living who might have known my birth parents, Bob and Betty Workman. They lived most of their lives in Huntington — Bob was born in 1916 and died tragically when he drowned in Florida in 1962, after he and Betty had divorced in 1959 in Huntington. Betty was born in 1921 and died of lung cancer in Huntington in 1992. She gave me up for adoption at birth at Cabell Huntington Hospital in Feb. 1961.

    I have talked to a number of Logan old-timers, including Ed Eiland, Stan Maynard, Howard McNeeley, Ann Vickers, Otis Ratliff, Bruce Hobbs, Ralph Noe and a few others, but have not found anyone yet who knew my parents. My father Bob worked for Bordens in West Logan, and Bob and Betty both performed with a band in Logan, the Jerry Winters Orchestra. Bob played the bass and Betty was a vocalist, and we have some audiotapes from about 1951 when they were performing with the Winters band in a March of Dimes benefit broadcast on WLOG from the old Guyan Barbecue that used to be on Stratton Street in Logan. At the time my parents performed with the band, at least at that benefit concert, other members were Jerry Winters, Hal Bainbridge, Francis Steele and Eddie Thornbury. I also have a photo of my father Bob performing with Eddie and a fellow named Percy Kilgore, who I understand also had his own band. I have talked to Roscoe Thornbury, Eddie’s younger brother, but he did not know my parents because he was away at college when my parents and older brothers Crys and Robin Workman lived in Logan. I’ve also talked to Tom Bainbridge, Hal’s younger brother, and Tom remembers my father Bob but not my mother Betty. My oldest brother Crys, who is 17 years older than I am, attended first grade at West Logan Elementary in 1950-51.

    If you know of old-timers I can contact still living in Logan, or who have Logan roots, or with connections to the Borden’s in West Logan, the Jerry Winters band or any of the numerous other dance bands in Logan during that late ’40s/early ’50s period, please email me at frank.christlieb@yahoo.com. If you have Logan roots, maybe we can correspond and figure out folks you may know that I can get in touch with.

    I appreciate your time and help.

    Sincerely,
    Frank Christlieb
    Arlington, TX

    • Frank Christlieb says:

      Am wondering if anyone saw my previous post looking for folks who may have known my birth parents Bob and Betty Workman when they lived in Logan/West Logan in the late ’40s and early ’50s. I’m also looking for anyone who knows anything about Jerry Winters, who had a dance band in town for a few years, and my parents performed some with him. I believe Jerry may also have worked at one of the radio stations, either WLOG or WVOW. He died about 30 years ago. Also, if you know any history of the old Guyan Barbecue that used to be on Stratton Street, I would be grateful for your help.

      If you have any ideas, please drop me a note at frank.christlieb@yahoo.com.

      Thank you very much.
      Frank Christlieb
      Arlington, TX
      frank.christlieb@yahoo.com

  51. Shelby Burgess says:

    Subject: Logan hotels.
    Before the motels came along, there were hotels. Logan had the Pioneer, Aracoma, Justice Inn, Sidebottom hotel in Black Bottom. Chapmanville did not have any hotels back then; but there were some “tourist cabins” located at Big Creek. As far as I know, the town of Man did not have any back then I believe the Aracoma had family apartments. Theirs was the only ones for familys back then. Logan county has came a long way in providing accomodations for visitors since then.

  52. Janice Brickles Campbell says:

    Does anyone remember 2 children being shot by their mother at Macbeth in 1952? We left WVa. in 1952 and this happened right after we moved. One of the little boys name was Jimmy. Would appreciate any help.. Thanks, Janice

  53. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Shelby, I recently obtained some old pictures of Black Bottom and the “Cow Shed” is in one of the pictures. I remember the Casino Club. Was never inside, but we could hear the music on Friday & Saturday night all the way on top of City View Hill. The only Wagon Wheel I remember was on Dingess Street. I will be posting the pictures as soon as I finish the article. I am waiting to get more pictures that have been promised.

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Dodie;
      I know of the Wheel cafe on Dingess St. The one I referring to was in Black Bottom. I believe it was abandoned after one of the many floods that hit the area. Glad you have some old pics of the area.
      The other Cow Shed saloon I spoke of was located on the French Butcher property at Chapmanville.

  54. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Does anyone remember the Cow Shed at Black Bottom back in the 1940s or 1950s? Was it a beer garden?

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Dodie;
      The only beer tavern I have ever heard of in Logan Co. named the “Cow Shed” was located at Chapmanville, at the mouth of Crawley Creek.
      You may be thinking of a tavern named The Wagon Wheel located on Rt 44 at Black Bottom. It had a wagon wheel in the front, thus the name. Down the street was a night club named “The Casino Club”. They had a huge dance floor, and I have been to some of the square dances they occasionally held. That was a lot of fun. Square dancing gave way to Rock & Roll about this time.

  55. Shelby Burgess says:

    Spankem, WV
    Was one of the odd names for a community on Huff Creek, Logan Co.WV.
    When the railroad was built up Huff Creek, the train people was wondering what to call the settlement. They heard some kids crying, as their mother spanked them for gettting their clothes wet & dirty in the creek. One of the train crew yelled out loud: “spank em, lady ” The name hung on for many years, until the p.o. decided Davin was to be the Post Office.
    My uncle ( James Lewis Burgess) lived there for a while. He always called the town “Spankem “.

  56. Shelby Burgess says:

    Janet (Barker) Hager passed yesterday. Her obituary is in the Logan Banner.
    Janet was a leading family historian & genealogist of southern WV. I was on her website for several years. I admire Janet for her selection of her final resting place, in the Hager cemetery, at Hewett, WV. I too am related to the Hagers.

  57. Michelle Baranet Crestfield says:

    I saw the photo of the painting my dad did, entitled Slag Fire on the Guyandotte. That is so cool to see.

  58. Shelby Burgess says:

    Two other Logan county millionairs come to mind;
    One was Don Chafin who befriended the coal operators in their fight to disrupt unions. Another man was John ‘Johnnie” Vickers at Chapmanville. He came off the farm at Big Creek to establish a clothing store. He sold lower priced clothes to the residents, mostly on credit terms. He and his son, Tracy, started up another store at Gilbert later on. When he died his estate was worth a million.

  59. Shelby Burgess says:

    Logan county WV had a millionaire who was illiterate. His name was Standard Vanatter.He operated a used car parts business in Black Bottom. He died and left an estate worth one million dollars. His wife did all the paperwork for him.I believe he was born on Big Ugly creek.

    • Ruby Deskins says:

      When I was growing up, anytime my dad wanted another car/truck, he would just go to Stanley Vanatter’s. My Mom said he was trading off the devil to get the witch. I remember one time my brother and I went with my dad and we brought a billy goat home. Oh, did that goat stink. We had a little nanny goat and she wouldn’t even get close to that stinky goat. So, I know one illiterate millionaire who also sold used vehicles and stinky goats.

  60. Shelby Burgess says:

    Hi again,Dodie;
    Black Bottom was also known as Ellis Addition to the city of Logan. Some say its name was due to the black waste coal that covered the area. Others say its name came from the African American population in one part of the addition. Black Bottom was a mixture of retail stores, saloons, scrap dealers, horse traders, and dwellers.
    A popular song back then was called: Black Bottom Blues
    “if you go down to Black Bottom; put your money in your shoe For the women in Black Bottom, will take it away from you”. Oh, sweet mama, daddys got them Black Bottom Blues. Oh sweet Mama, daddys got them Black Bottom Blues. (Chorus)

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Shelby,
      I am finding more opinions about Black Bottom than “Carter had pills.” (The youngins’ won’t know what that means). I walked through Black Bottom every day when I was growing up (only way to get to post office in Logan where we got our mail). You forgot to mention that it also encompassed Deskins Addition. Where was the scrap dealer located? 🙂

      • Shelby Burgess says:

        Dodie;
        Frank Gaylock ran a used car parts & scrap operation up near Baisden’s farm store. There was another similar operation across old rt 119, but his name doesnt come to mind. I just remembored the horse trader’s name ; it was Sam Pack. He was a shrewd operator, and got many complaints from customers. The late judge Chambers got a horse from one of the dealers, only to later discover the animal was nearly blind. He later told the story in his memoirs of Logan Co. WV.

  61. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    For several months now, I have been working on the History of Black Bottom in Logan County. Would love to have some input from people with first hand knowledge and memories about Black Bottom in the 1940s and 1950s. Do you know how Black Bottom got that name?
    (Bet you can’t say “A Booklet About Black Bottom” – 3 times really fast without laughing or getting mixed up!)

    • Brandon Kirk says:

      Dodie: When I was researching the Mamie Thurman book for Keith Davis, I came across some information in the Banner where the town council had voted to change the name of Black Bottom to White Bottom (or something like that). There was an article on it in the Banner. I may have copied it but I doubt it since I was looking for something else entirely. However, I did find it interesting. I recall discussing it with some of the other employees at the Banner. Of course, I don’t think the White name caught on. I know this sounds vague but it’s been over ten years ago that I saw it.

      • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

        Brandon, The “town council” voting to change the name of Black Bottom to White Bottom makes absolutely no sense. What Town Council? There has never been a “town council” for Black Bottom. Black Bottom was never incorporated and that was never even the official name of the area, so how could they “vote” to change the name?

        Apparently you read the article written to the Banner in the 1990s by the late Sam Rogers. The article has been on line for years. Sam was writing about a letter that had been written to the Logan Banner by K. F. Deskins in 1928. Sam opined that he wondered if White’s Addition was the outcome. I mentioned his article in the booklet that I wrote (unpublished) about the history of Black Bottom. I know the area well and worked on the booklet for a long time and combined it with my genealogical research and personal knowledge, as well as researech nthat I had previously done in primary records. I wanted to make sure all information was factual.

        Black Bottom encompasses present day Deskins Addition and present day Ellis Addition. The area that became known as “Black Bottom” (Ellis Addition section 0f “Black Bottom”) is where my ancestor (and yours), Patton Thompson and wife Judy Farley lived. I bet you didn’t know that.

        “White Bottom” had nothing to do with White’s Addition. Whites Addition is up by Cherry Tree. A Booklet About Black Bottom In Logan County WV, along with my other DOCUMENTED research will be placed (FREE) in the libraries in Logan as well as in the Dept. Of Archives and History in Charleston.

        Here are a couple of excerpts from my unpublished booklet about Black Bottom:
        “I will state categorically that White’s Addition was not the “outcome” of the attempt of Kennis Farro Deskins to change the name of Black Bottom to “White Bottom” in 1928. Sam Rogers’ statement that many people “correlate Black Bottom with the Black Americans living there during the early and middle part of the twentieth century” is true, but the premise itself is invalid. Historically there were never many black families living at Black Bottom. I suspect that K. F. Deskins was trying to get deed restrictions placed on the area, due to the fact that a high school for black students had recently been built at Coal Branch…

        “When I began researching Logan County History and genealogy, I was very surprised to learn that the deed to my parents’ house at City View revealed that the area had been deed restricted since a resurvey and redrawing of maps in October 1926 that would end in 1960.”

        Brandon, I am old but my memory is quite clear. I am also very familiar with the original research on the history of Mamie Thurman. I believe it originally sold for $2.00 (?). I have a copy of the original research. You were probably in diapers or a toddler at that time, from Lincoln County.

        • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

          What’s in a Name? Nothing about a “Town Council “voting” on name of Black Bottom being changed to White Bottom in Sam’s article. Would love to see a copy of the letter written to the Logan Banner by K. F. Deskins though. Previous “historians” not doing documented research in primary records are repeated over and over. For example, Henry Clay Ragland stated that Harts Creek was named for a man named Stephen Hart. That cannot be true. Stephen Hart was born in NC many many years after “Heart Creek and “Little Heart Creek” were shown on an 1820 map of Cabell County) . I found no record of Stephen Hart ever living in what is present day Logan County, plus the fact that he hadn’t even been born when “Heart Creek and “Little Heart Creek” were named. People just keep repeating that same mistake without actually checking in primary records.

          Sam Rogers article about place names of Logan County can be found here: (Use with caution)
          http://loganwv.homestead.com/WhatsInAName.html

  62. Shelby Burgess says:

    I believe the old Merrill coal co. at Henlawson ceased operations about 1950. One of my late wife’s in laws was employed there (Walter Grabowski). They lived at the old single men’s boarding house up Little Buffalo creek. I have a pic. of the old boarding house some where in my clutter. Little Buffalo creek was where the present park now is located.

  63. T j George Jr says:

    Hello everyone I was raised in Logan back in the 1970’s. I attended Justice Grade School and stayed with Mrs. Craddock in the evenings after school. She lived at the end of the Henlawson RR Bridge. I loved trains and was always curious as to when the last year that the rail line and bridge that went up the hollow of Chief Logan State Park was used. I would love to see any pictures or have some information on the history of that line when it was still in use and what year the railroad stopped using it.
    Love this website,
    TJ George Jr.

    • Frank Thompson says:

      I knew the Craddocks and their son, David. I remember Moss Craddock was a preacher and a mine foreman. I can remember him preaching on the radio.

  64. Ruby Deskins says:

    Can anyone tell me the name of the cemetery located on the hill in back of the college?

    • Admin says:

      It’s called the Mounts Cemetery. My great grandmother is buried there. I will be posting some photos of the cemetery soon.

  65. Shelby Burgess says:

    Hi Charlie;
    Good to hear from you again. Yes, many Logan countians had hand dug water wells back then. Water was no problem.
    The biggest problem was waste disposal.We had no waste pickups at that time. I burned & buried my waste, as I had a large piece of land. Others just dumped their waste over the creek banks ; or took them to some remote hollows. I do not use Facebook, Sorry.

  66. Shelby Burgess says:

    I was looking over the West Virginia maps of the 55 counties, and Logan city now has only one addition, (Whites Addition). It reaches from rt 10 to Monitor. No mention of any others: Deskins, Ellis, Buskirk, Midelburg. I knew there was a Whites addition alongside rt 44, where the county bus garage is. Looks like the other additions have been relegated to history.

  67. John McDonald says:

    A little postscript to the letter I left yesterday that may be of interest to Shelby, Joseph McDonald of Blacksburg IE Toms Creek had all these sons of which were Bryan where my line runs through and also Edward his brother,Now I think Bryan stayed at Toms Creek and his son John my greatgreat grandfather settled there at Crooked Creek,But this Edward was the first to leave the toms creek area and by the assistance of an english scout went into what is now west virginia,Edward settled through the negotiations of an Indian Chief the area known today as Oceana, this town was named after the daughter of the Chief. I believe if you do a little research this may be where you find the two seperate families,though distantly related.Through Edward and Bryan being brothers and probably being influenced by his uncle John chose like edward to relocate.John at crooked creek,uncle ed at oceana.

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Thank you John, for the interesting rundown on the Logan Co. WV McDonalds. I apologise for saying in my post there were two unrelated sets of the McDonalds in Logan co. My set probably came down to Stollings from Huff creek, and like you say were remotely related,via Edward.

  68. Shelby Burgess says:

    I am a bit confused what Frank said about his ancestors living across the river from McConnell . We always called that area ‘Gore bottom’; named for the early settlers, the Gores. Perhaps both the Gores and Thompsons lived there at differnt times.
    Tell us more, Frank.

  69. Shelby Burgess says:

    I am reminded of a tale Frank Crabtree of Blair once told me ; The miners were in the mantrip cars riding out from their shift in the old Soverign mine one day. Somehow, the mule got his head into a raw electric line, and jumped back into mine car hauling the miners. It took some time to untangle the men from the bewildered animal. At that time, electricity was just coming into use. Mainly for the face cutting machines & drills.

  70. Shelby Burgess says:

    Hello;
    I lived in Chapmanville district for several years; I knew some of the people mentioned in the texts Johnny Adams’ mother was a Baisden and distant kin of mine.I also knew many more on Harts creek: Scott Brumfield, Earl Black, Chas. Adams, Victor Adkins, Rev. Vernon Mullins, Henry Mullins, Walter Chapman, and all the Brownings who were brothers (Warren, Ward).

    burgesswv@aol.com

  71. Homesick Hillbilly says:

    Like everyone, I enjoy vintage photos. But, let’s put things in perspective. Not everyone has a Facebook page or wants one. By only posting your old photos on Facebook you’re just making the company richer and denying non-Facebook users.

  72. Shelby Burgess says:

    Can anyone remember the burning landfill on the riverbank approaching Logan on Rt. 10 ?Motorists had to use headlights in daylight to see. The smoke was very stong. It was hardtimes, and the city had no money to haul the trash away, so over the riverbank everything went.I dont know how the people living in cityview endured all that smoke.This was back in the 1930s.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Hi Shelby,
      1930 was before my time, but my family moved to City View in 1942 and I don’t recall Route 10 ever running close to City View. Could you possibly mean Draper Hill or those houses at the base of the backbone at Deskins Addition, across from the Triangle Service Station? If memory serves, the trash dump for the City Of Logan was at Draper and we used to sometimes get the smell of burning trash (and smoke) at Logan Central Grade School and Logan Jr. High (on the hill in back of town) in back of the old Hinchman house.

      Route 10, as you enter Logan from Aracoma, runs along the Backbone and people often confused the houses at the base of the Backbone with City View, but that wasn’t City View, it was Deskins Addition.

      • Charlie Crabtree says:

        Hello Shelby, This is Charlie Crabtree Frank Crabtrees oldest son. You lived below us in Midway. I helped you one summer on your produce route. Helped your Dad and brother dig a hand well at your house. Haven’t seen you in 50 years or better, hope your doing well. I am on Facebook under AnnCharlie Crabtree. We live in Morgantown.

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Dodie :
      My mistake. It was’nt city view, but was Ellis Addition. I don’t recall any trash burning at Draper, which is across the river from Rt 10. There was a bowling alley, service station, and an A & P store nearby.Also an International truck dealership. All are gone now.
      Deskins Addition was farthur up Island creek than Ellis Addition.

  73. Shelby Burgess says:

    Deep Logan Co. WV Roots;

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Deep Logan County WV Roots; My Ancestors were in the Guyandotte Islands section very early, around 1800. They were: John Dempsey, Elizabeth Baisden Deskins, John Workman, and am related to the Dingess family through the Moores.
      My Burgess ancestor was Meridith Burgess (1774) who settled in the Man area.
      George McDonald of Stollings married a daughter of his. Also related to the Hatfields through the Vances

  74. Kyle Workman says:

    Does anyone know what year the Logan Train Depo was built? You might recognize it now as Logan City Hall.

    • Shelby Burgess says:

      Since no one has replied, I will add some additional info on the Logan train station. It is near a hundred years old.The station was built prior to World War one. My dad and many others went off to war at that station. It was a beautiful station with a weather canopy along the tracks.It was the second station buildt. The first was a small building later demolished after twin tracks were built.

      • Kyle Workman says:

        Thank you Shelby, I kinda knew it was prior to WWI. I think you’re right about it being over 100 years old. There might be a build stone somewhere on the building.

  75. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Has anyone ever heard of BIG SPRING in Logan County? I have been putting some of my research into book form to donate to the State Archives in Charleston and to the Community College at Mud Fork and would like to find something to prove (or disprove) information provided by Tom C. Whited in a letter he wrote to the Logan Banner July 23, 1929 stating that the first courthouse in Logan County was at Big Spring, the first designated the first county seat of Logan County. Other than that letter, I have never heard of “Big Spring” in Logan County. Can anyone help?

    Hey Frank, What happened to the “tidbits” section?

    • Dodie;
      Big Spring branch flows into the Huff Fk at Mallory, Logan Co. WV. I believe the state erected a fire tower there, and it was called ‘Spring Mountain’. I can hardly believe that location was once the Logan County seat, since it was so isolated.

      Shelby

      • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

        Shelby, I knew I could count on you to find out where Big Spring was actually located. Tom C. Whited wrote a letter to the Logan Banner in I think 1929 and said that he first County seat was at Big Spring and that Big Spring is present day Peach Creek! I knew that wasn’t correct but didn’t know where Big Spring was actually located. Your info fits perfectly with the extant Petition (1824) to form Logan County which states that the commissioners met at Wm. Hinchmans house (at The Islands) and that Huff Creek was one of the places some of the residents wanted the county seat to be located. The other 2 places they considered were “John Cook’s Place” (present day Wyoming County) and The Islands (present day town of Logan). Thank Goodness there were more signatures from folks who wanted The Islands as the county seat. If they had actually gotten Huff’s Creek or John Cook’s Place, what you and I know about Logan County History would have been forever different! Not a word anywhere in the Petition about Big Spring or Peach Creek! Thanks Shelby! Always good to hear from you.
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  76. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Logan County and the genealogy community has lost a very special friend. Donna Louise Brown, 55, of Bruno, passed away Monday, October 3, 2011, at her residence after a long and courageous battle with cancer. Donna was a very special lady and one of the most caring people I have ever known. Donna spent many long hours in the Logan County Courthouse doing research and copying records that are not available elsewhere. She published several books, including births, deaths and marriages of Logan County and she was the webmaster for Logan County Genweb from the time the U.S Genweb was started. She gave generously of herself and her time to anyone who ever contacted her for help. Donna taught me how to use a computer and how to design websites. I treasured her friendship and my heart is breaking, but our loss is Heaven’s gain.

    Frank, is there some way we can have a special page in honor of Donna? There must be lots of people who would want to pay tribute to her memory. Her obituary can be found in the Logan Banner:
    http://www.loganbanner.com/pages/news_obituaries

    • Frank Thompson says:

      I was very sad to hear about her passing. She was certainly a special lady and will be missed by many. Yes, we should do a page to honor her memory.

  77. Perry Lunsford says:

    I believe that the Rev. Alexander Lunsford was the elder brother of my great grandfather Andrew Jackson Lunsford. I was wondering if there were still Lunsfords from this family in Logan County. (I live in Georgia and am not familiar with the Logan County area.) I would love to make contact. I’m at yahoo and my address is pcharles_lunsford. Thanks

  78. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    No Easy Way Out…
    It does not matter who you are or where you live, the series called “COAL” will touch your heart and you will feel a wrenching in your gut ( as I did) as you watch this documentary about coal mining in West Virginia. No matter who you are or where you live, if you were born in West Virginia, these are your people and a large part of your heritage. Most of us have never been inside a real coal mine, but this series takes you right down in the mines where you can almost taste the coal dust and feel the damp dark air, clammy on your skin.

    The series is about REAL people and survival. Michael Browning, Editor of the Logan Banner, wrote an excellent editorial about the series and he said it very eloquently here:
    http://www.loganbanner.com/view/full_story/12592074/article-%E2%80%98Coal%E2%80%99-an-accurate-portrayal-of-a-miner%E2%80%99s-life?instance=lead_story_left_column

    Michael’s editorial prompted me to do a Google Search and here are some links that you might want to check out. In my opinion, this series should be part of the required
    curriculum for high schools and colleges all over the country.

    The series “COAL” is on Spike TV Channel
    Wednesday Nights 10 PM- 9 Central

    You can watch an episode here:
    http://www.spike.com/video-clips/5ische/coal-coal-episode-2-preview-act-1-of-no-easy-way-out

    Aron Barnhart, The Kansas City Star:
    “Coal” is a formulaic, context-free hour about hazardous duty that shuttles the viewer brilliantly from one adrenaline rush to the next.

    Tim Goodman, The Hollywood Reporter:
    (“Coal”) immediately stands on its own as a worthy subject, not just a way to capitalize on a trend. The men who go into the coal mines in West Virginia are originals with the kind of amazing stories and backgrounds, vocal patterns and lifestyles that conjure a documentarian’s dream. Of course, “Coal” is billed as a docu-reality series and will undoubtedly, in future episodes, fall into some familiar patterns (human behavior and editing being what they are).

    Sharon Levy, executive VP of original programming at Spike TV said, “We’ve tapped into something that people are passionate about; this is a topic the world is interested in,” he said. “Everybody is afraid of being buried alive. These people risk their lives every day to make the world move, yet most of us never really think about how we get [our energy].”

    • Hello;
      I am new to this site. I know quite a bit about “Coal’, being the s/o a coal miner.
      Dad told me how he got started as a miner; back then there were only a few jobs a working man could do : either work in log jobs, or go in the mines. The wages were about the same ; the big difference was a miner could work year around ; logging jobs were seasonal, as Winter months the timber industry was mostly dormant times.
      We lived all Over Logan county, at one time or another. When a mine closed, dad would go to some other mine to work. This is the reason I know so many folks in the county

      Shelby B.

      • Frank Thompson says:

        Shelby, that’s the kind of comments I enjoy most. Thank you for sharing it.

        • You are welcome, Frank.

        • In reading the early mining days of Logan co. WV. I learned the first coal mine near Logan was the mine owned by Harry S. Gay. The railroad had been built to Logan, but no spur line was yet built up Island creek. So, Harry hired wagon teams to haul the coal to Logan. this was about 1905.
          Later, Aracoma mine started up ; then Wilson Co. on the east end of Logan. the railroads opened up Logan Co. to future prosperity. The C&O railway later started up passenger trains, and people could travel much faster than before.

          Shelby B.

  79. Frank Thompson says:

    Thanks Dodie for sending me the link to the YouTube video of “The Green Rolling Hills of WV by Tom Roush”. I liked it so much that I’ve loaded the video in the sidebar.

  80. Jane Lawry says:

    Hi Dodie, I’m researching Rev Alexander Lunsford and was in the process of trying to determine if he was a minister when I found your wonderful post, “A few of Logan County’s Earliest Ministers”. Now, I have no doubts I was on the right trail and he was indeed a minister. In the last paragraph of the story it states you have photographs of all the Logan County ministers.

    I read your reasons for withdrawing your photos from this site and completely understand. However, I’m wondering if there is any way I could get a copy of a picture of Rev. Alexander Lunsford to add to my family tree on ancestry.com.

    Like you, I believe in crediting those who graciously allow others to post their photographs, documents, etc and will credit your name with the picture. There is so little information out there on Alexander Lunsford, I couldn’t believe it when I saw you may have a photo.

    Thank you regardless of whether or not you permit me to use a picture of Rev. Lunsford. The article was wonderful to read!

    Jane Lawry
    Galena, Ohio

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Hi Jane,
      Im glad that you enjoyed my posts. I have been hesitant about answering your posts, because I don’t want to get into any discussions about religion or “politics”. That is definitely against the policy on Frank’s website. Thank you for your honesty. Ancestry.com, Inc., is an Internet company based in Provo, Utah, US, (Home of the MORMAN Church) and Ancestry.com, Inc., is the largest FOR-PROFIT genealogy company in the world.

      I’m sure the libraries in Logan have pictures of “Dad” Lunsford, beloved Deciples Of Christ Minister, who was alive and preaching the Gospel according to his own beliefs, at the time the Mormans were forced into moving west.
      Best Regards,
      Dodie

      • Jane Lawry says:

        Hi Dodie, Thanks for your reply. I will give try contacting the library to see if they have a picture of Rev. Lunsford. I appreciate your help! Please keep doing your wonderful posts! We need the stories .. memories of the past to help us understand the hard work, love, courage & building of our great country. Learning their trials & tribulations gives us a greater respect for our ancestors & sometimes even a better understanding of ourselves! Jane

        • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

          Jane, I agree with everything you said about the work, love, courage & building of our great country. As a retired family therapist, I especially agree that learning about our ancestors gives us a better understanding of our selves. John F. Kennedy (or some very intelligent person in history- my memory is not what it once was-) said that if we don’t learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it.

          • Frank Thompson says:

            Dodie, your statement “if we don’t learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it” reminded me of when I worked in D.C. and my daily commute would take me by the National Archives Building. Many times I would reflect on the quotation engraved on the building:

            What is Past is Prologue

          • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

            Frank, I had no idea that quote was on the National Archives Building. What profound words of wisdom. I suspect that the majority of folks never give it a second thought. I nearly died once due to the fact that history does repeat itself. Here is a true story that is on my old Families Of Steel(e) web site:
            http://www.reocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/6203/rhoda.htm
            Dodie

  81. Beulah ( Whitt ) Cremeans says:

    I an interested in finding some pictures of the Mt. Gay Grade School that I attended in the 1940,s. I know that someone in Logan has some pictures of the school. Could someone help me find pictures, please? Thanks, Beulah

    • Beulah Cremeans says:

      Just a note to let you know that I did find some pictures of the Mt. Gay Grade School with the help of a friend, Connie Kirk. She knew someone that had the pictures and she put them on facebook and I saved them. I think she still has them on her facebook page. Now, I am looking for some pictures of the coal camp at Mona Hill. If anyone has any would you please post them on facebook or my email. Thanks, Beulah

  82. Brandon Muncy says:

    I was wondering if you had any information on my great grandfather (General Bryant), great, great grandfather (Preston Bryant), or my 3x great grandfather (Corbin Bryant). I have not been able to find much information about Preston or Corbin Bryant.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Whose son are you? Preston Bryant was my grandfather.

      • Brandon Muncy says:

        Galen Muncy is my father. Lena (Bryant) Muncy was my grandmother. Her father was General Bryant & Preston Bryant was her grandfather.

        • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

          Brandon, If you will give Frank permission to share your email with me, I will send you some pages from my book (unpublished) about Uncle General (yes, he was my mother’s brother) and a complete chapter about your Uncle Don (one of my favorite cousins). Will also send you the story of Grandpa Pres’s funeral.

          • Brandon Muncy says:

            Dodie, thanks! That would be greatly appreciated. I’ve always been interested about that side of my family.

            Frank, You have my permission to share my email with Dodie.

  83. Pam Brennan says:

    I would love to read your history of Island Creek. How would I go about finding it?

  84. Frances Pierce Hampson says:

    I am so saddened that Dodies’ work will no longer be available. I have personally known Dodie for a long, long time, she has always been honest, caring and hard working. I am especially aware of the time (YEARS) and hard work she has put forth in research. She has always been very generous sharing such research, so I understand her frustrations when it is used improperly.

    Many pictures (from a lot of people) have been shared with Dodie and she has ALWAYS given credit to the donor. I know that a picture I shared with Dodie (Peach Creek Grade School group picture) showed up on Topix (no credit given as to where it came from.)

    Sorry for our loss!

  85. Homesick Hillbilly says:

    I love the photos on this site.

  86. Linda Smith Farmer says:

    Dodie my sister told me that our dad was actually born at Ranger. Is that Harts Creek? I have gotten some info. from Hal Smith, a cousin on my dads side of the family. My dad was born in 1909, so I doubt he was younger than you, 🙂 he passed away in 1972 at the age of 62. He is related to the Gartins,Workmans and Brownings.

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Linda,
      Ranger is in Lincoln County and is not close to Whirlwind (Big Harts Creek in Logan County). Ranger is not Harts Creek. Your Smith’s were not related to my Smiths. Your family was pretty easy to trace though (unusual for the Smith surname). I did a very brief search of census records and death records for Lincoln County this morning and here is what I found your family:
      Granville Smith appears to be the s/o David F. Smith Jr. and wife Martha J. He was in their household, age 21 on the 1900 Lincoln County Census (Laurel Hill Magisterial District). The Census shows that “Granvil” was 21 years old, born Feb. 1879. His dad David, was age 52, born April 1848. His mom, Martha J. (Jane?) was born June 1854. David was a farmer, but “Granvil” was a day labor in the logging business.

      I found David, age 22 (Granville’s dad) in the Sheridan District of Lincoln County on the 1870 census, living with his father, and several siblings. Tolbert Smith and family lived next door.

      In 1870 (Lincoln County), I found Both David and Tolbert (brothers) in the household of Ballard Smith. Apparently Ballard’s wife had died, but David had a brother named Tolbert. I looked up Tolbert’s death record and found that his parents names were Ballad Smith and Tina Mars. (You and I might possibly be very distantly related through your Marrs ancestor).

      I then checked the 1860 Boone County Census and found that Ballard Smith (age 8 in 1860) was the s/o Henry and Cynthia Smith from Greenbriar County. There was a 75 year old Mary Smith (probably the mother of Henry) living in the household. Mary was born in Monroe County. There is some writing that is very hard to read, but I believe it says that Mary was blind.

      From the birth places of Ballard and Cynthia’s children we can determine that they had lived in Fayette Co., Cabell Co., and Boone County after they left Greenbriar County.

      Almost forgot to say that Tolbert Smith died in 1933 and is buried in the Smith Cemetery at Ranger WV. (This would be Granville’s uncle).

      Hopefully is enough to get you started and give you some direction as to where you should be searching.
      Hope this helps. Good Luck!
      Dodie

      • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

        Linda,
        I found your dad and grandparents in the Tridelphia District of Logan County in 1920. Tridelphia Dist. is up around Man, Bruno, Robinette, etc. I’m not sure where Enumeration District #37 would be, but at least this places thm in Logan County for you.
        Granville Smith Family:
        1920 LOGAN CO CENSUS – TRIADELPHIA DIST. – E. D. #37 (pg.141)
        (Compiled by Donna Brown)

        ** 275-293
        SMITH Granville 40 Head
        {Workman} Carrie 34 Wife (note by DB- doubtful she was that old)
        Linzy 16 s
        Connie 13 s
        Ray 11 s
        Carless 6 s
        Ruby 1 8/12 d
        MCKILLEN Elba 30 wd bdr
        ADKINS Gilbert 28 md bdr

  87. Linda Smith Farmer says:

    Dodie I`m sorry about the misuse of your material! My dad ‘Roy Smith “was born on Harts Creek and I don`t have a lot of information about him and his family, so I really enjoyed reading about Harts. His mother was Carrie lee Workman, his dad Granville “Dutch ” Smith. I appreciate all of the hard work you have put into this info. It`s to bad there is always someone waiting to screw up a good thing !

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Linda,
      Thank you for the kind words. Was your dad from Harts in Logan County or Little Harts in Lincoln County? Your dad and grandparents must be younger than I, but maybe someone reading this can help. We are almost certainly cousins to some degree. Be sure to print out the Whirlwind (Harts Creek) chapters for your own use and to pass on to future generations..

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Linda, One of my dearest friends is the grand neice of Carrie Workman. Carrie Wokman used to babysit my friend. My friend is the lady in the Mystery Christmas picture that I had posted and had asked people to see if they could guess who it was. If you don’t mind, have Frank send me your email address and I will put you in touch with her. I just talked to her and she has some good memories to tell you about Carrie. Carrie was the daughter of (John) Lewis Workman, born circa 1866 married to Nancy Caroline Gartin. That makes you my cousin too. She and I had been friends since 7th grade and I didn’t know until a few years ago that her mother was a Workman. It truly is a small world!
      I will send you the rest of your lineage in private email after we connect.
      Dodie

  88. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    It is with regret that I have asked Frank to remove most of my work from this website. Frank has spent a lot of time making this forum available for Folks with Logan County roots to share and exchange their memories and knowledge.

    Sadly, there are TROLLS (bottom feeders) out there who surf the net looking for ways to make a fast buck or to make a name for themselves, no matter how insignificant. They steal, yes, steal other people’s work and pictures and claim them as their own. For example, I have never posted a picture on “Topix” nor have I ever given anyone permission to post my pictures on Topix, but most of the pictures from my old Logan County Nostalgia site are on there, with no credit given to the actual owners of the pictures. I have always given credit to folks who so kindly shared their pictures and knowledge with me.

    I have devoted a large portion of my life (thirty plus years) to researching genealogy and the history of Logan County. I have never submitted anything to commercial enterprises nor given any commercial enterprises (companies) permission to publish (for profit) my work, nor the property of others who have trusted me with their old pictures and knowledge. My work would have been mostly dry-flat statistics if not for so many people sharing their old pictures with me so that I could tell stories with pictures as well as facts.

    I am old and tired and wanted to share some of my work that might be of interest to others. Peach Creek and Harts Creek especially have been neglected by historians, but I spent many years researching and compiling the history of those places, as well as other areas of Logan County.

    The straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back was when a man from Logan contacted Frank Thompson recently asking for written permission to publish some pictures from some of my pages. Frank had no choice but to contact me about the request. The man who contacted Frank was not only rude, but in my opinion, underhanded and unethical, when the man knows full well who I am and how to find me. This man is well known and is strictly in business to make money.

    There are many old pictures in families that will never be shared because many folks are sick of their families being exploited for money, like Logan County people have been exploited since the beginning of the county. Most of us have ancestors who died old before their time, “working for the man” and being exploited by the money changers.

    Thanks to all of you who have participated in discussions about what I have posted and hopefully we can still continue the wonderful discussions. I just will no longer be handing my research, sources and hard work to business endeavors on a silver platter.

    Dodie (Smith) Browning

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      PS
      I forgot to mention it, but I will be donating my work to the Community College Library in Logan. as well as to the public library if they want it.

    • Jane McDonald Jamison says:

      Dodie, I am so sorry all this has happened to you. I have so enjoyed reading all that your patient research has uncovered and appreciate your letting me make some additions or corrections (as far as I know) to a couple of things. I’m sure I speak for all of us who have visited your website and who have taken a “walk back in time” with you. I hope that 2011 brings you better health. Again, thanks for all your hard work.

  89. lisa brady says:

    My dad worked at Fairmont Foods in Stollings, if anyone has any pictures or comments would you please post them, I would love to see them!! thanks!

  90. Barbara Randant Thomas says:

    I’ll be home for Christmas;
    You can count on me.

    Please have snow and mistletoe
    And presents on the tree.

    Christmas Eve will find me
    Where the love-light gleams.
    I’ll be home for Christmas
    If only in my dreams.
    I had so many wonderful christmases at Peach Creek, I love all our neighbors , speical love for the Rayburn’s and Hull familys. Merry Christmas to all,
    Barbara Randant Thomas

  91. Frank Thompson says:

    A friend sent me this link of WVU Happy Holidays eCard to share. Enjoy!

    http://www.wvu.edu/~holidayecard/ecard_recruitment_new.html

  92. Kathy Winters says:

    Dodie

    Where did you get that great picture of Logan circa 1875?

  93. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Just wanted to wish all of my Logan County friends a Blessed Christmas Season. I made my first Christmas web page 10 years ago, but the pictures and sentiments still hold true today. If you would like to see my special pictures and wishes for you, click here:
    http://lhsclassof55.tripod.com/logsnow2.html
    Love,
    Dodie

    • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

      Kathy, I have been doing genealogy (and history) research for 30 plus years, (long before the Internet) so I have many old pictures and post cards. I used to have lots of Logan County pictures on one of my old websites, “Logan County Nostalgia”. Many wonderful people shared generously with me over the years- others, not so much. I started putting old pictures online in 1998 but people were lifting them, (as well as my research) and posting elsewhere with no credit given to original owners, so I stopped posting them online several years ago. My LHS Class Of ’55 Memories web site is the only one I keep updated these days. My husband was an avid amatuer photographer and many of my “old” pictures were from pictures that he took of originals, often hanging on a wall in someone’s home in Va. or WV (or a library or courthouse). I believe the picure you asked about is from an old post card.

      My health is poor these days but I have posted some of my work here, to help Frank get his web site started but most of my work; microfilm, micro fische, books, old picture collection, old post cards and unpublished manuscripts will be donated to the Community College Library at Mud Fork when I die. I bet they would like to have a CD copy of your wonderful pictures of Crooked Creek cemeteries. Those pictures are excellent.

      • Barbara Randant Thomas says:

        Dodie its saddens me and lots of others that you are not going to post anymore.I have always enjoyed all you posts, at times i felt as though i was back in time.What wonderful storys and pictures,you have posted .So at this time i want to say Thanks for the memories,and god bless you and yours ,Barbara

        • Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

          Barbara,
          Thank you for your nice comments. I will still be posting under the comments section, because I enjoy sharing and exchanging our Logan County memories. For example, when Frank posted the pictures of the old railroad bridge at the edge of town, it triggered many memories of how I, along with other children used to take “shortcuts” under the bridge and under trains loaded with tons of coal so we didn’t have to wait at the crossing to get to town. That was before I moved to Peach Creek. I wouldn’t trade growing up in those “billion dollar coal fields” for all the big city lights or tropical islands that we used to see in movies at the Logan Theatre and Middleburgh Theatre when we were young. I have seen those big city lights and tropical islands and after all is said and done, there really is “no place like home.”

  94. Salina McDonald Surratt says:

    I was so happy to find this website. I have been doing some research on the McDonald family history. Any infomation you have would be appreciated.
    My Great Great Grandfather was Boliver McDonald. My Great Grandfather was John McDonald. My Grandparents were Wayne and Ollie (Hale) McDonald.
    My father is Richard McDonald.

    • Jane McDonald Jamison says:

      I am interested in everything you can find on the McDonald “clan” in Logan County. My great-grandfather was a brother to Bolivar (we always spelled it with an “a”); his name was Astynax and everyone called him Styne. My grandfather was John Bryant McDonald, who lived in Peach Creek all his life. He was a barber there. He took care of the graves on the point above the Peach Creek Post Office where my great-grandfather and great-grandmother (Martha Jane Dingess McDonald – I was named for her) were buried. There were four or five graves there, but I don’t remember who the others were. At that time, I was a child and not interested in history!
      The only Richard McDonald that I knew was the son of Alex, grandson of Charles McDonald (my great-uncle and brother to John). He was never married. Who was your John McDonald? My grandfather named my father “Orloff” and always said he did so that “someone else wouldn’t get his mail.” Maybe the overlapping names was the reason?

      • Salina McDonald Surratt says:

        My great grandfather was John Alexander McDonald and he married Annie Frye. They had Wayne (my grandfather), Woodrow and Wilson (twins), Magdalene, Samuel (killed in WWII) and Edith.
        My Grandfather was Alvin Wayne McDonald and he married Ollie (Hale). They had Juanita, Earl, Carl, Jo, Harry, Mary, Sammy, Johnny and Richard (my dad).
        I have a little family record of Bolivar and Mary McDonald if you need any info on them.

      • I have never researched the Logan co. WV McDonalds, but I’m wondering if there were two unrelated sets of McDonalds in the county
        My great aunt, Martha Burgess, b. about 1850, married George McDonald of Stollings. Any help appreciated.

        Shelby B.

        • Correction;
          In my post I mentioned my great aunt, Martha Burgess married George McDonald. She was the wife of Lewis McDonald. Sorry!

          • John McDonald says:

            I am the great grandson of Maltravers McDonald whos son was Joseph Floyd McDonald and Maltravers was the brother of Bolivar,John McDonald their father was whom I was named after,This John came to crooked creek in the early 1800s he was the son of Bryan McDonald these folks originated in Blacksburg Va, in what is considered Toms creek just north of va tech. Their father Joseph McDonald moved to this area after an attack by indians left him with a head wound, My father said he was told it was a removed ear but this attack also left his brother edward dead at what was considered to be the big spring which is located on the catawba road just south of fincastle va.the reason for the attack is sketchy there were indian attacks then and we as a nation were dealing with the tory laws of england and it is known that Edward was an outspoken lawyer and Joseph was a very devout christian and had no issues with proclaiming the gospel,which was treasonous to the english and it is mentioned that there could have been no worse profession then an evangelist for it flew in the face of the church of england ,I truthfully thought this was the reason he moved near what is now Blacksburg, look up Whisner Methodist Church in Blacksburg Va.But Joseph and his six sons faught in the revolution with his wife elizabeth making and supplying the gun powder,if you look at a detailed map of that part of va ,just east of blacksburg you will find a small town called McDonalds Mill there is an old mill that is there and that mill is actually the second mill built on that same spot,this mill belonged to Joseph and Edwards brother George,now if you continue up that road east,you will come to the catawba road on this road is where you will find Josephs father cabin it can not be seen from the road but it was built around 1745 seeing as that was the time he bought the property approx 600 acres. His name was Bryan McDonald II he came to America in 1691 at the age of 5 his brothers were john,William,James,Richard and sisters Mary and Annabelle .Bryan bought the property and settled there,across the road from his property sits another home that sits next to a cemetery ,again hidden by trees from the road this old colonial was built in 1766 and was built by Bryans son or Josephs other brother Bryan McDonald III it still stands and is beautiful,Now Bryan IIs father was named Bryan MacDonnell McDonald he came with his wife Mary Doyle and just a few small children,they settled in Mill Creek Hundred Delaware after having sailed and docked in New Castle Delaware. Bryan was a Lieutenant in the army of King James II I have not found the exact cause for their departure but was most likely as not religious persecution,The family was Presbyterian,up until Joseph. England had its Church of England and was bent on making the British Isles as well as America the same,and Ireland had it catholic faith. Plus I believe they knew the battle could not be won there that was proven the next year in 1692 when the Glencoe massacre happened as well as the Highland clearances then colloden,The torch had to be passed to a new era of people lets none of us take it for granted,Liberty comes with a price,Lest we Forget.Bryans father was Alexander MacDonnell and Icould continue just a few more generations to the Kings we are decended from but thats it for now

  95. David Abraham says:

    I love this website! My family immigrated and ended up in Omar at the turn of the 20th century, so I love any history about the area I can find. Bob, you are right about my Grandfather flying P-51’s in WWII. I was actually trying to find anything I could about the bridge in Logan that was dedicated to him (William J) back in the late 90’s; to see if it was still bearing his name but I can find nothing. I am currently living in Charleston, the rest of my immediate family has moved away from WV to Kansas and as far as Hawaii, but I can’t bring myself to leave the area. I was surprised to see Bob’s and Raamie’s posts on here; it’s great to see good people that care about their roots. My father spoke very highly of both of you; I know he still looks over all of us and may he rest in peace. I really wish I had continued the tradition of flying but instead became an accountant… I do see a private pilot’s license in my future though 🙂

  96. Lori Clevenger says:

    Hello..my mother is Ruby Saunders, daughter of Ernest and Ada Saunders of Coal Branch. Her brothers and sisters are Albert (deceased), Mary Madeline (Peg), James, Frank, G.C. (deceased), Elizabeth, and Virginia. My grandpa built one of the first roads up into Coal Branch, probably in the 30’s. He was a miner, and also a preacher. I’m just wondering if anyone remembers them? My mother is 84 now. Thanks for this wonderful site. I’m trying to show her the photos, but her vision is nearly gone, and its hard for her to see them. She’s enjoying the memories though, as i describe the pictures to her.

  97. Frank Thompson says:

    I saw a 6½ oz Logan WV coke bottle sell for over $100 on eBay. I can remember when I was a kid I only got 2 cents a bottle at Kroger. I sure wish we had eBay back then. 🙂

  98. Vera Sengstock says:

    The week in Logan was wonderful. I went to the library several times and to the genealogy club meeting one evening. It was like coming home. We drove a lot to places I heard Grannie talk about and a few I had visited many years ago as a child. A second cousin is buried in Mitchell cemetery at Mitchell Heights (up the hill). We drove up several roads but did not get out to explore. A lady at the cemetery at Man told us it was there. Oh well, another day and another time. Went to Henlawson and found the house my great aunt lived in. Island Creek flooded while we were there and that was sad, but I understand there are plans for dredging. We met so many wonderful people that my husband said he would like to stay awhile but there is not many places to park the RV except at Chief Logan. I have some old postcards of Logan from the 1940’s that I will share when I get home in October.

    • Admin says:

      Vera, it was nice to hear that you enjoyed your trip. Thanks for sharing. I am looking forward to seeing the postcards. Have a safe trip home.

  99. Vera Sengstock says:

    We are now in Logan. A week in Monroe Co. was wonderful. We did climb Worf Creek Mt. An hour and a half up. The other day we went up the mountain at Peach Creek. What a huge cemetery and grossly neglected. I found a lot of McNeely graves and two Lawson. We are staying at Chief Logan and will leave here Wed for Ky. Did drive up Island Creek to the end where Grannie Wilsie Ellis was born.

  100. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    Doug,
    We moved to Peach Creek in 1952, so I didn’t know the folks you mentioned, except the Harrisons. In which house did you live at top of hill? We moved there in 1941 or early 1942 and if memory serves, I believe we bought our house from the Bias family.

    There were no houses between the end of the paved road and the top of the hill, other than Rasnick’s Goat Farm when we moved there. The Rasnick farm was on the hill at the last curve before the top of hill. Later the Hunters lived there and built a second house on the property. I remember rumors about “prehistoric” animals being seen at the big rocks on top of the mountain, but everyone living on City View laughed at the stories because they knew that it was the Rasnick family’s goats that had climbed to the “Big Rocks” to graze. I believe there was even an article about those “prehistoric” animals in the Logan Banner.

    The Harrisons lived in the row of houses where the pavement ended. The name Rainwater sounds a little bit familiar. Seems like that might be the family that built after we moved there. Didn’t they live on the right hand side on the dirt road, going up the hill? Didn’t you have to climb a bunch of steps to get to their house?

    When we moved there, there was a family next door to us that moved to Middleburg. I’m having a “Sr. Moment” and can’t remember their names. Dr. Haydue (dentist) lived two doors from us. They had a little boy named “Frankie”. The Jones family lived in the next house, had a daughter named “Bobbie”. The Dean family lived in the next house; had two children, Barbara, a redhead with freckles and I forget the little boy’s name. In the last house (next to the cemetery) was the Staton family; had a teen aged son named Roy. When you topped the hill, our house was the one in the curve, with the pillars on the front porch (2nd house on top of the hill). The first house was a duplex and Norman & Audrey Conley bought that one. They sold it to the owners of Peerless Cleaners. I can’t remember the names of that couple, but I used to baby sit for them. The Oxleys lived in the smaller house down under the main road when we moved there and they sold their house to the Parsons family- Parsons had a daughter “inky” and a little boy, Roy. August & Mamie Gertz bought that house from the Parsons, then rented it out and moved next door to us. The Hefners lived in the large two-story house down under the road. They later sold to Monnie & Hobert Young.

    About 1948 or so, Mose Ferguson built a Snake handler/ “free love church down under the hill between where the paved road ended and before the last curve. That was when Mother started talking about moving, because of the “free love” church and because people started building what she called “shotgun houses” all over the hillside. She was afraid it would destroy property values. After I was married she later moved back to City View (where the pavement ended). She lived on the hill in last house where the Harrisons lived. Goldie Napier then built a snake handler church in front of Mother’s house. Wonder if that church is still there? We used to sit on Mother’s front porch and really “jam” to the music from Goldie’s church; piano, guitars, drums, symbols and tambourines. I love that kind of Gospel music to this day!

  101. Doug Bokosky says:

    To: Dodie (Smith) Browing

    I read one of your posting where you wrote that you once lived at the top of City View. As a child we lived at the very top of City View until we moved to California in April, 1963. I was 10 years old when we left West Virginia. However, I have been returning to visit Logan on a regular basis since 1974. Sometimes I’ll visit more than once-a-year. Anyway, I remember a lot of our neighbors on City View: The Rainwaters, Harrison’s, Bowman’s, Belchers, Kirk’s, Ferguson’s, Frey’s, Blankenships, etc…. I’m wondering if you lived there when we lived there, around 1958-1963? We moved into my granfathers house on City View, sometime after he passed away. His name was John Bokosky. Do you remember the Bokosky family of City View? I couldn’t find your e-mail address anywhere on this web site, this is why I’m posting this here. You can contact me at FVCAL@yahoo.com

  102. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    No documentation is given, but the WV State Archives has this same information on their website under the History of Omar:
    http://www.wvculture.org/museum/omar/index.html

  103. E. Harvey says:

    I have been searching for info on Omar, WV which I believe is in Logan County. In the 1800’s, Cole Porter’s (famous song writer) grandfather, James Omar Cole, went to WV and purchased land. He sold the lumber and then discovered coal and/or oil. He returned to Peru, IN, which is my home town. I was told the town of Omar was named after him. Can anyone offer some insight on this? I am the docent at the Cole Porter birthplace in Peru and trying to verify information to relate to tourists. Thanks.

  104. Dodie (Smith) Browning says:

    @Vera Sengstock
    Vera, I have researched in all of the places you are going this summer. All have excellent records, but last time I was in Russell Co (Lebanon) they wouldn’t let us photocopy some of the old records because of damage to the books. All of their records are on microfilm though and can be borrowed through Interlibrary Loan.
    Logan County (my place of birth) is naturally my favorite place to research and IMHO, has the most beautiful campground.
    Chief Logan State Park fills up fast so best to make reservations NOW (It may already be too late to get a spot for July).

    http://www.chiefloganstatepark.com/

    Application For Reservations

    http://www.chiefloganstatepark.com/CHIE_online_camp.pdf

    Hope you enjoy your trip and have
    HAPPY HUNTING!
    Dodie (Smith) Browning

  105. Vera Sengstock says:

    We are on a genealogy road trip this summer. We will be in Russell and Scott Counties in Va. Then Monroe and Logan W. Va. Does anyone know of a campground near Logan? We are traveling in a notor home and have a tow car to get around in. Plans are to be there about mid July. I have really enjoyed reading everyone’s comments and history of Logan. Vera

  106. Frank Johnson says:

    We are searching for anyone who lived at Slagle Wv in the mid 40.s to early 50,s
    Frank and Vi Copley Johnson
    frankandvi37@embarqmail.com

  107. Frank Adams says:

    Growing up in Logan I soon found out that not everyone was honest. When buying meat at the local grocery store nothing was prepackaged or preweighed. The butcher would tear off a long piece of white paper, place it on the scale, and then throw a cut piece of meat on to it. Now the paper was extra long and what the customer could not see was the paper extended down to the butcher’s waist. When he threw the meat on the scale it would bounce up and down. The butcher would apply traction to the paper at the proper time and he could increase the weight of the cut of meat and add to his profit. Filing stations did something called short sticking. Stations were full service them and they would gladly check you oil. The attendant would pull the dip stick out, wipe it off, and reinsert. Only problem was he put his thumb between the cap on the dipstick and the neck of the pipe. The was just about a quart of oil on the stick that would show as low. They would bring the dipstick to your door and show you that you were a quart low and did you want him to add it. Sure, one would say. Now the oil at Pure Oil Stations was green and kept in a wire rack of six bottles. The scam was one of the bottles was just painted green and this is the bottle that was upended into your filler pipe. The attendant would once again check the oil level with your dipstick without his thumb in the way and gladly show you the level was now up to the full mark. Station attendants would also wear a string cutter’s ring and nick your fanbelt or drop a piece of Alka Seltzer into your battery which would kill it instantly.
    We have a scam going on in the Charlotte area where a young lady will pull into a convenience store station and buy some gas. When she goes into pay she will tell the person at the counter that she lost her wedding band around the pump. They go out and look for it and, of course, they cannot find it. The young lady then tells the attendant that it has great sentimental value and if anyone finds it she will offer a 500 dollar reward. She says she is staying at a local motel for a few days and leaves her phone number. Well, later that afternoon her cohort pulls in and produces a dime store wedding band. He offers to sell it to the attendant inside for 100 bucks. Now the attendant sees a quick 400 dollar profit and buys the wring. When he calls the number: no one home. I guess we will always have crooks and con men amongst us.

  108. Billie Ann Williams Old says:

    LHS Grad. Class of 1951. Love this new site. Would love to hear from any old friends from Dingess Run. Grew up in Ethel . To list all my wonderful memories would take a book. My parents were Earl and Marie Williams.
    I still have a brother and sister in the area and I try to get back at least once a year.

  109. Joanna Newman says:

    Re reocities sites.

    Thanks Frank for the warning below.

    I hope all who would check into their web page to be careful and use their own best judgement.

    I personally haven’t seen any warning windows but Franks virus program may well be better than mine.

    There is also another place who has saved some of these sites. If anyone wants to have that site name I can provide it as well.

    Just a bit gun shy now though. Even though I didn’t get a window doesn’t mean that they aren’t trying to down load goodness knows what. 🙂

    Careful everyone

  110. Frank Thompson says:

    @Sandy Gallion Hays

    Sandy, to submit a picture for posting on this site, just email it to me. Also, check out the posting guidelines on the Home page. I am looking forward to seeing your pictures.

    Here is my email address: webmaster@loganwv.us

  111. Frank Adams says:

    Can anyone post a picture of the Blue Goose Saloon?

  112. Sandy Gallion Hays says:

    So, how are we able to get photos posted?

  113. Jessica May says:

    does any one have an old pic of the old east end elementry school in williamson

  114. Frank Thompson says:

    @Joanna (McDonnell) Newman

    Warning! I visited Joanna’s (West) Virginia Genealogy Page (reocities.com/Heartland/prairie/5225/) and Norton reported that the site is unsafe. “Norton Safe Web has analyzed this page and determined that the site is unsafe to visit. This Web site may attempt to install malicious software on your computer.”

    I am very sorry, Joanna.

  115. Joanna (McDonnell) Newman says:

    TO ALL WHO HAD WVA WEB PAGES ON GEOCITIES

    Geocities was discontinued in October 2009 so many of us lost our web pages full of genealogy information and photos!

    Great News!

    Thanks to a great guy, named Jacques Mattheij, we can now access our web pages (for read only for now.)!

    When he found out they were going down he raced to copy them before they disapeared forever.

    I believe he hopes at some point to find a way for us to access our pages.

    All you have to do to access you pages is to replace the “G” in geocities with and “R” to make it reocities plus the rest of your webpage address.

    For instance
    my old web page was
    http://geocities.com/Heartland/prairie/5225/
    Now it is
    http://reocities.com/Heartland/prairie/5225/

    Once you access your page again, take the time to read all he went through to save all the pages…and you also might want to send him a big thank you at his email j@ww.com

    Hope this makes you as happy as it did me!
    Joanna

  116. Frank Adams says:

    Some casual observations about Logan County, WV. As I drive from Charleston to Logan along Appalachian Corridor G I notice a strange site off to the right of the highway. About 100 55 gallon drums with the end cut out and a rooster tethered to a “T” shaped perch. I was not raised on a farm but I don’t think you need that many roosters to produce eggs. They are fighting cocks which I thought was illegal in WV. The handlers attach blades to their spurs and they will fight to the death. A good handler is much like a cut man in a human prize fight. He will have substances to stop the flow of blood as well as an assortment of different blades or spurs to attach to his rooster. I think that there is big bucks in betting on cock fights. Now the other activity that takes place in Logan County is marijuana production. It is reported to be the biggest cash crop in the state.The locals call it “wachy tobacchy”. The WV State Police, locally called the round hats, will try to spot the fields from the air as they turn a particular shade of green at a certain time of the year. From reading The Logan Banner I see where they manage to catch a few from time to time, but I would imagine that there are bigger fish to fry and some serious crime in Logan County. McDowell County led the state in murders at one time and I would imagine that Logan County is not far behind. A common defense during a murder trial is as follows, “Judge, I killed him because he needed killed” and many times the judge and jury agree and the defendant gets off relatively easy. Now in Logan County, if one does not get along with a neighbor, a favorite method of getting rid of the neighbor is to burn him out. I think it is very effective. I do know that the locals can spot an outsider without any problems. I think they suspect that you are a ATF agent looking for stills or a surface miner. I can remember the copper “worms” hanging on an auto parts yard in Deskins Addition. So much for some of my observations about Logan County.

  117. Frank Thompson says:

    When I was a kid in 1950s White’s Addition we referred to the rocks on that mountain as “Big Rocks” also.

  118. Frank Adams says:

    Logan had several “big rocks” on top of the surrounding mountains. Ward Rock was up where WLOG and WVOW had placed their towers. There were large rock formations above Deskins Additions and I remember at one time the paper rumored that there were prehistoric animals up there. It turned out to be goats. The large rock formation above Midleburg Addition was known as Devil’s Hole and you could get on top but it was difficult. The rock was noted for a large hole in the middle. I think the proposed new road to man has cut into this hillside and it certainly is not the same. We spent a good bit of time on the hillside looking for grapevines to cut and then swing on. We would test them with the weight of two or three boys to insure that they were strong enough. All went well until the vine died about the third day and then it would break while you were over the great abyss. In the 50’s the Guyandotte was polluted with the washings from coal cleaning plants. It was jet black and in times of drought, almost ran like syrup. Untreated sewerage also was dumped into the river and gamefish were non existent. The annual floods did serve a purpose of giving the river a good flush.

  119. Frank Adams says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjhZGG_U9Hk
    I do remember Perunie and if you copy and paste the link above I think you can hear her theme song, Turn Your Radio On

  120. BOBBY RICHARDS says:

    I GREW UP IN LOGAN,CITY VIEW,MY ? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO BIG ROCK ON TOP OF CITY VIEW,I WAS BACK IN 2000,DID NOT SEE IT,THANKS-50S-EARLY 60S

    MY E-MAIL b.richards69@yahoo.com

  121. Herbert,
    What a lovely memory! Thanks for sharing it.

  122. Herbert (Porky) Blankenship says:

    Dodie: When I was student at the Coal Branch grade school in 1949 or 1950, the white kids were invited to the black school for a May Day celebration. They had a May Pole with red and white streamers or ribbons attached to the top of the pole. All the kids danced around the pole, each holding a streamer, half were going clockwise and half going counter clockwise. When the pole was finished it had been woven top to bottom with red and white. Lunch of hot dogs and Kool Aid was served inside the school. I can’t remember if there were two or four rooms but it seems to me like there were two large rooms. I was most impressed with the hot lunch. I don’t know if they always served hot lunches or this was just a special occasion.

  123. Frank Thompson says:

    I want give my special thanks to Dodie (Smith) Browning for identifying the name of hill from where the Logan WV photo was taken. I also want to thank Sandy Gallion Hays and Kenny Collins who confirmed Dodie’s opinion. I’ve change the title of the photo to “Logan WV from the top of Buskirk Hill”. Again, thanks to all of you for your help.

  124. Frank, Unless my bearings are off, If you look to the far left, about a quarter of the way from the bottom of the picture, you will see some yellow oblong “thingys”. If I am not mistaken those are school buses and directly in back of the buses is the Aracoma High School at Coal Branch. That is Coal Branch Hollow running in back of the school. Schools were still segregated when I went to school and Aracoma High was the High School for black students. The grade school for black students was a nice white clapboard building on the hill above the High School (to the left), but doubtful that it is still standing. Does anyone know? I was never inside, but believe it was a 4 room building. The little 2 room school where I went to school for 4 years was farther up the hollow. The small hill that separates the community of Aracoma (Route 10, shown in the picture)from Coal Branch was called the “Backbone”.

  125. Frank Thompson says:

    Dodie, no I cannot see the old Aracoma High School in the picture. Give me a hint where to look.

  126. Billy Ellis says:

    Thank you so much for making this website. It really brings back old memories, it’s great! I also really like the old pictures of logan. I would also like to say hello to Bob Marslender, I played football with your older brother Danny, at Omar Jr. High. (The old school, not the new one)

  127. Frank Thompson says:

    Sandy, I think the picture you are talking about is from the Logan Banner. If that’s the case, the Library should have it on microfiche and the article may tell you the names of the individuals in the picture. However, since he’s in the background, it’s probably not likely but good luck anyway.

    Also, if the triangle picture is from the Banner, then you should be able to buy a large print of the picture and if the print is from the negative (not from a scanned copy), you will be able to do high resolution scan of the picture and maybe determine if it’s your grandfather.

  128. Sandy Gallion Hays says:

    a one in a million question for someone…the standard picture of the triangle, in 1936. I am sure most of you have seen it. Has anyone ever noticed the man walking in the background? I am almost sure that is a picture of my grand father, Lewis Gallion. He used to operate the horseback riding stables on Middleburg island and would walk from the island to where he lived on City View every day. I can only remember him wearing work pants with a long sleeved white shirt and a hat. For those who may not remember me, my mom was Lucille Gallion, “Perunie” on WLOG for more than 32 years.

    my email address: sjghays@hotmail.com

  129. Kenny Collins says:

    Buskirk hill above the old power plant and Buskirk Addition.

  130. Can anyone (beside me) see the school buses and the old Aracoma High School (Coal Branch) in the 1999 picture of Logan?
    Dodie

  131. Sandy Gallion Hays says:

    it looks like this picture could have been taken up behind Jimmy Buskirks (way up)…you can see the turn off to the hospital, as well as Rt 10 on your left and entire Middleburg island (which my grandfather was offered to buy in the early 50’s since he operated the riding stables there and didn’t think it would be a good business decision…he wasn’t a very forward thinking kind of guy but he was really good with stock. hahhaha) with the middle school closer just as you would see it driving across water street bridge going into town from the triangle. you also notice the power lines, so yep I think it’s up on the hill behind Buskirks

    My email address is sjghays@hotmail.com

  132. Barbara Randant Thomas says:

    I am thinking that picture was taken from Draper Hill or High Street. I really like this web page. Fuzzy I too so love Logan WV. The only place I call home. Barbara

  133. Frank Thompson says:

    Thanks Terry, I enjoyed the pictures on your site. I won’t copy any of them but I would like to add a link to your site so anyone visiting this site will have the opportunity to enjoy them too. I totally agree with you about the way life is now. I think all of us that grew up in the 50s and 60s long for that simple life again.

  134. GREAT SITE, AND I LOVE THE OLD PHOTOS. IN MY MIND ITS STILL JUST LIKE IT WAS BACK WHEN. I HATE THE WAY THING ARE TODAY, TOO FAST AND TOO FURIOUS FOR MY LIKING. IF YOU NEED ANY OLD PHOTOS YOUR WELCOME TO ANY THAT I HAVE POSTED, PLEASE TAKE ALL YOU WANT. TERRY FUZZY MULLINS http://www.members.tripod.com/~TerryLeeMullins/TerryLMullins.html

  135. Loren Tomblin says:

    I remember Morrison’s very well. My brother Doug and friend Odell M were there one night and some boys wanted to fight. We broke bad on them and the police were called. Sally, then a young lady, (we were young also) warned us that they were on the way. We made a hasty retreat laughing all the way. There was only three of us and about 10 of them from Man or somewhere. At any rate it was fun.

  136. Frank Adams says:

    I remember the admission being 15 cents for a child and 25 cents for an adult. I think popcorn was a dime. We would sag our knees at the boxoffice to appear smaller. The theaters were all owned by a prominent Jewish family, the Talheimers. They had the only swimming pool in Midleburg Addition but were very kind to allow all of the neighberhood kids to swim there from time to time. The island was not very well developed in the 50’s and there was only one bridge near the old Kroger store. I understand that the old Logan High School at East End is only used for Board of Ed. storage. It is full of asbestos and it would be expensive and create more of a hazard to remove. Morrison’s Drive Inn is still in business and I think they have the best chicken livers in a box that I have ever eaten.

  137. Robert A. Mitchell,JR. says:

    I have a Bertha Mitchell born 1892. Her parents were John N. Mitchell and Malinda Hall. John was the son of Archelaus Mitchell b. 1825 in Logan Co.,WV and Harriet Cline b. in Logan as well. Does anything
    ring a bell??
    Bob Mitchell

  138. phyllis says:

    my mother in law was Bertha Mitchell, married John Miller of Logan,WVa.sons and daughters still live in Logan…

  139. Bob Marslender says:

    To the Wilson’s; thanks; after my initial post I actually remembered that Jack was the Basketball star; but I got the state location wrong on his college career.

    Bill Abraham, I believe flew the old P-51 (? could be wrong on the AC model, but I am reasonably sure he was a fighter pilot. His son Billy Dale and I were good friends. He passed away just a few years ago. He flew C-130’s. We were in Viet Nam at the same time. He graduated the USAF Academy in 1967; my son Chris grad. there in 2004; he is an F-16 pilot with two tours in Iraq and newly assigned in AZ as an F-16 instructor pilot. At 6’4″ Chris is almost as tall as one of the Wilson brothers. So, a descendent of an Omarian carries on the fighter pilot tradition.

    Mobile, AL

  140. Your website was recommended to me by Sheridan Hill and just got my first look at it today. Hope you get more stuff than you possibly could dream of and I especially enjoyed the mountainside photo of Logan and the Logan County WWII bomber—that one is a first. I was born at the old Mercy Hospital in Logan, schooled in Chapmanville, graduated from MU and worked as a public school teacher in every high school in Logan County except Man (post integration) and also worked as editor of The Banner now working the past 14 years as an assistant to Senate President Earl Ray Tomblin. There is little recorded Logan history so I hope your website becomes a valuable tool for students and teachers as well as researchers. Anything I can do to help, just whistle a tune. Raamie Barker, 304-357-7887 Charleston, 855-3032 in Chapmanville.

  141. Dana Bowling Hughes says:

    My dad, Edward Bowling was born in Logan Co.WV…father was Cloid Bowling mother was Pearl…any relatives out there???

  142. Vern Wilson says:

    March 8, 2010

    Houston, TX

    Bob Marslender–remember him well from Omar. Nice of him to recall my mother’s smile. Brother, Jack, died of aortic aneurysm, in Florida, in 1988.

  143. Bob Marslender says:

    I think the third Wilson brother was Jack; is that correct Lyle and Vern; I still remember your mother’s happy smile

  144. Robert A. Mitchell,Jr. says:

    I am researching the Mitchell Families of Logan,Mingo,McDowell and Wyoming counties. would love to talk to anyone about Logan County and Coal mines, Lizard Creek State Park, etc. I went to a family reunion
    up in that park.
    Bob Mitchell

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